The book, Buddhism: One Teacher, Many Traditions

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The book, Buddhism: One Teacher, Many Traditions

Post by JohnK » Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:18 pm

I'm considering getting a copy of the book, Buddhism: One Teacher, Many Traditions by HH the Dalai Lama and Thubten Chodron. The book compares the teachings as presented in what they call the "Pali Tradition" and the "Sanskrit Tradition." As neither author was formally trained in the "Pali Tradition," I'm wondering if folks from that tradition think the book gives a reasonably good presentation of it. Perhaps this has already been discussed as the book was published in 2014. Thanks.
http://www.wisdompubs.org/book/buddhism
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Re: The book, Buddhism: One Teacher, Many Traditions

Post by Coëmgenu » Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:09 pm

JohnK wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:18 pm
I'm considering getting a copy of the book, Buddhism: One Teacher, Many Traditions by HH the Dalai Lama and Thubten Chodron. The book compares the teachings as presented in what they call the "Pali Tradition" and the "Sanskrit Tradition." As neither author was formally trained in the "Pali Tradition," I'm wondering if folks from that tradition think the book gives a reasonably good presentation of it. Perhaps this has already been discussed as the book was published in 2014. Thanks.
http://www.wisdompubs.org/book/buddhism
They will likely be operating in what I call "the received tradition" for understanding śrāvakayāna. It is likely to be an informative book, IMO, but that (this 'received tradition') is likely to be the hermeneutic at play when they address the earlier dispensation. For instance, the difference between personal and phenomenological selflessness is likely to be touched on, with "bodhisattvayāna believes Y but śrāvakayāna believes X". Oftentimes, due to this received tradition, "śrāvakayāna" wont actually believe X, its just something Mahāyānis think they believe.

If you can get over that, it is likely to be an interesting book. Indeed, it might not even suffer from the polemical flaws I outline above.
子念昔貧,志意下劣,今於父所,大獲珍寶,并及舍宅、一切財物。甚大歡喜,得未曾有。
The son thought of past poverty, outlook humble, now having from father a treasure harvest, also father's house, all his wealth. Great joy - to have what was never before had.

Τῆς πατρῴας, δόξης σου, ἀποσκιρτήσας ἀφρόνως, ἐν κακοῖς ἐσκόρπισα, ὅν μοι παρέδωκας πλοῦτον· ὅθεν σοι τὴν τοῦ Ἀσώτου, φωνὴν κραυγάζω· Ἥμαρτον ἐνώπιόν σου Πάτερ οἰκτίρμον, δέξαι με μετανοοῦντα, καὶ ποίησόν με, ὡς ἕνα τῶν μισθίων σου.
Your fatherly due I withheld unthinking, in evil I wasted your wealth; a prodigal cries, "I've erred, father, receive the repentant as serf."

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Re: The book, Buddhism: One Teacher, Many Traditions

Post by JohnK » Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:57 pm

Poking around, I see that Rita M. Gross had this to say:
...The level of scholarship informing this book is very high, and the information provided about both the Pali and the Sanskrit traditions is accurate and complete...
https://tricycle.org/magazine/under-one-umbrella/ (though I don't know of Rita M. Gross -- someone else to google)
"...the practice is essentially a practice, and not a theory to be idly discussed...right view leaves unanswered many questions about the cosmos and the self, and directs your attention to what needs to be done to escape from the ravages of suffering." Thanissaro Bhikkhu, On The Path.

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Re: The book, Buddhism: One Teacher, Many Traditions

Post by bodom » Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:28 pm

I have the book. If my memory serves me right it basically covers the 7 purifications as outlined in the visuddhimagga as comprising the entire Theravadan tradition. Of course as we know not all of the Theravadan subsets view the visuddhimagga as authoritative. I have the book packed away and I'll try to dig it out later to let you know what all is covered.

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Attached to nothing, letting go:
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Re: The book, Buddhism: One Teacher, Many Traditions

Post by JohnK » Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:56 pm

bodom wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:28 pm
...I have the book packed away and I'll try to dig it out later to let you know what all is covered...
Thanks -- no need to dig it out -- the publisher's website does provide the Table of Contents and a pdf of the first 22 pages, so I can get a pretty good idea of what is covered -- I mostly wanted to be sure, before buying, that there was not a sense in the Theravada community that the book was off-base on that side. Perhaps because of the tradition of the two authors, the book was not read much by Theravada folks??? (which happens to be one of the general observations made by the authors -- not much inter-group engagement -- I suspect that is why they had Bhate G. do the Foreward; some T-cred.).
"...the practice is essentially a practice, and not a theory to be idly discussed...right view leaves unanswered many questions about the cosmos and the self, and directs your attention to what needs to be done to escape from the ravages of suffering." Thanissaro Bhikkhu, On The Path.

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