Good Buddhist sangha /meet up/ etc. in Los Angeles?

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Good Buddhist sangha /meet up/ etc. in Los Angeles?

Post by nobody12345 » Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:54 pm

I have been a solitary Buddhist more than 4 years since I could not find a sangha/temple/ meditation meet up group in Los Angeles that I like.
I would love to attend any of those place if that place is serious about meditation and teaching of the Buddha.
My preference is Theravada (I strictly follow the Pali Canon only) but if there is no decent Theravada one, (I tried to find one few years ago and could not find a decent one in LA) I might give it a try on non-Theravada school.
Any recommendation?
Thanks!

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Post by Mkoll » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:07 am

The closest Theravada monastery to you that I know of is Metta Forest Monastery. The abbot is Ven. Thanissaro.

There's a thread on this forum with links to online directories of Buddhist groups though I can't find it. I'm sure someone can provide a link.
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Post by nobody12345 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:09 am

Thanks for your answer.
I revere Ven. Thannissaro.
Listened and read many of his talks and books and donated money to his monastery.
However Metta Forest Monastery is more than 3 hours of drive from my place.
Mkoll wrote:The closest Theravada monastery to you that I know of is Metta Forest Monastery. The abbot is Ven. Thanissaro.

There's a thread on this forum with links to online directories of Buddhist groups though I can't find it. I'm sure someone can provide a link.

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Post by tiltbillings » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:11 am

What exactly are you looking for?
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12

This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.

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Post by nobody12345 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:14 am

tiltbillings wrote:What exactly are you looking for?
Serious Buddhist gathering (my first preference is Theravada).
Size or shape does not matter.
I want to meet like minded people who are interested in escaping from Samsara.

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Post by SarathW » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:06 am

nobody12345 wrote:Thanks for your answer.
I revere Ven. Thannissaro.
Listened and read many of his talks and books and donated money to his monastery.
However Metta Forest Monastery is more than 3 hours of drive from my place.
Mkoll wrote:The closest Theravada monastery to you that I know of is Metta Forest Monastery. The abbot is Ven. Thanissaro.

There's a thread on this forum with links to online directories of Buddhist groups though I can't find it. I'm sure someone can provide a link.
Hi Nobody
I love to meet Ven. Thanissaro.
But he is 10,000 km from my place!
Meeting him could be a life time opportunity

Normally I travel 150 km to see the monk I like.

:)
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Post by culaavuso » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:24 am

nobody12345 wrote:I have been a solitary Buddhist more than 4 years since I could not find a sangha/temple/ meditation meet up group in Los Angeles that I like.
There is a list of L.A. area Thai temples at Thai-LA.com

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Post by nobody12345 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:54 pm

Hi.
Thank you so mch for your answer!
I'll try ladharma.org.
Although I'm not sure about http://www.insightla.org.
They seem like a business to me (I could be wrong but it was my impression).
Few years ago, Joseph Goldstein had a 3 hours and a half talk in my area.
If I remember correctly, I think it was sponsored by http://www.insightla.org.
And the entrance fee for that 3 hours and a half of Dharma talk was 175 dollars.
I can't take this kind of thing seriously because if that is not a pure business, than I don't know what it is.
I understand some people make living out of Buddhism but 175 dollars per each person (for only 3 hours and a half of talk) for the entire audience seemed like an indicator that they are not a true follower of the Buddha and I should never get involved with them.
I'm not saying I'm 100% correct on my assessment but that was my honest impression after witnessing it.
I have a tiny youtube channel on Buddhism and I don't run advertisement on those videos although I'm poor at the moment and need money.
That's because I respect the Buddha's instruction that never make Dhamma a business.
So I can honestly say that I'm not being a hypocrite here.
Thank you!

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Post by Mkoll » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:58 pm

nobody12345 wrote:And the entrance fee for that 3 hours and a half of Dharma talk was 175 dollars.
I can't take this kind of thing seriously because if that is not a pure business, than I don't know what it is.
I would have to agree. That's ridiculously expensive.
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Post by nobody12345 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:02 pm

SarathW wrote:
nobody12345 wrote:Thanks for your answer.
I revere Ven. Thannissaro.
Listened and read many of his talks and books and donated money to his monastery.
However Metta Forest Monastery is more than 3 hours of drive from my place.
Mkoll wrote:The closest Theravada monastery to you that I know of is Metta Forest Monastery. The abbot is Ven. Thanissaro.

There's a thread on this forum with links to online directories of Buddhist groups though I can't find it. I'm sure someone can provide a link.
Hi Nobody
I love to meet Ven. Thanissaro.
But he is 10,000 km from my place!
Meeting him could be a life time opportunity

Normally I travel 150 km to see the monk I like.

:)
Hi SarathW.
Yeah, I would love to visit great monks from various locations.
However, I am working 7 days a week (I'm a medical translator, working at home) and my financial situation does not allow me to take time off to visit remote places.
I can't even afford summer vacation at the moment.
So I just have to do daily meditation and if I get lucky, maybe visit some decent Buddhist gathering in my area.
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Post by nobody12345 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:05 pm

culaavuso wrote:
nobody12345 wrote:I have been a solitary Buddhist more than 4 years since I could not find a sangha/temple/ meditation meet up group in Los Angeles that I like.
There is a list of L.A. area Thai temples at Thai-LA.com
Thank you for your answer.
However, if I'm not mistaken, they talk in Thai.
Do you know any Thai temple around here that gives a Dhamma talk in English?
I have not known any but would love to know if there is one.

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Post by lyndon taylor » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:09 pm

If you are willing to deal with potential language problems, there are traditional south east Asian Therevada temples all over the southern California area, a lot of refuge communities of Cambodians and Lao, and a lot of immigrant Thai was well, the biggest Thai temple in the area is I think Wat Thai in Los Angeles, a lot of immigrants, temples markets etc in the Long Beach area. In all of LA I'm pretty sure you could find at least one that offers introductory talks in English.

The talks will usually be in their language, but some of the monks are usually fluent in English though not always the head monk, If you frequent the temples you will find former monks, now lay people, very knowledgable and happy to talk about Buddhism.
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community, sincerely former monk John

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Post by nobody12345 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:15 pm

lyndon taylor wrote:If you are willing to deal with potential language problems, there are traditional south east Asian Therevada temples all over the southern California area, a lot of refuge communities of Cambodians and Lao, and a lot of immigrant Thai was well, the biggest Thai temple in the area is I think Wat Thai in Los Angeles, a lot of immigrants, temples markets etc in the Long Beach area.

The talks will usually be in their language, but some of the monks are usually fluent in English though not always the head monk, If you frequent the temples you will find former monks, now lay people, very knowledgable and happy to talk about Buddhism.
Thanks for your answer!
I did not think about that possibility.
I will contemplate on your advice.

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Post by lyndon taylor » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:25 pm

I really appreciated getting a more Asian traditional form of Buddhist teaching through immigrant temples, the main thing is you have to be good at understanding people who speak with strong foreign accents in simpler english, if this is a real problem for you, it may not work, however most of the people at the temple speak at least some english, and many of the younger people are completely fluent in English and their accent not as strong, having been raised in America. However the younger people may be less knowledgable about the religion. Its really little harder than understanding you waiter at the Thai restaurant!!
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community, sincerely former monk John

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Post by Anagarika » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:40 pm

nobody12345 wrote:I have been a solitary Buddhist more than 4 years since I could not find a sangha/temple/ meditation meet up group in Los Angeles that I like.
I would love to attend any of those place if that place is serious about meditation and teaching of the Buddha.
My preference is Theravada (I strictly follow the Pali Canon only) but if there is no decent Theravada one, (I tried to find one few years ago and could not find a decent one in LA) I might give it a try on non-Theravada school.
Any recommendation?
Thanks!
Dear 12345: I understand that your work has you tied up almost 24/7 ( I am sorry you must work so much) but if you could carve out a weekend, you can take the Pacific Surfliner to Escondido, and then transfer to Valley Center, CA. I understand that someone from Wat Metta can pick you up in Valley Center if you make arrangements in advance. Why take a weekend to do this? The time you take away from work to be at Wat Metta will likely give you 110 percent of what you are looking for: a traditional Vinaya Wat, with very kind and good young monks, nuns and lay people, all guided by Thanissaro Bhikkhu, who is at the Wat almost all of the time, and who has a daily teaching, chanting and meditation schedule.

In other words, if you can get away, even with your laptop, for a weekend, book a hotel room in Escondido, wake up early and do some work, and then take time each day and/or evening to get over to Wat Metta. The time you carve away will be well worth it.

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Post by nobody12345 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:46 pm

Anagarika wrote:
nobody12345 wrote:I have been a solitary Buddhist more than 4 years since I could not find a sangha/temple/ meditation meet up group in Los Angeles that I like.
I would love to attend any of those place if that place is serious about meditation and teaching of the Buddha.
My preference is Theravada (I strictly follow the Pali Canon only) but if there is no decent Theravada one, (I tried to find one few years ago and could not find a decent one in LA) I might give it a try on non-Theravada school.
Any recommendation?
Thanks!
Dear 12345: I understand that your work has you tied up almost 24/7 ( I am sorry you must work so much) but if you could carve out a weekend, you can take the Pacific Surfliner to Escondido, and then transfer to Valley Center, CA. I understand that someone from Wat Metta can pick you up in Valley Center if you make arrangements in advance. Why take a weekend to do this? The time you take away from work to be at Wat Metta will likely give you 110 percent of what you are looking for: a traditional Vinaya Wat, with very kind and good young monks, nuns and lay people, all guided by Thanissaro Bhikkhu, who is at the Wat almost all of the time, and who has a daily teaching, chanting and meditation schedule.

In other words, if you can get away, even with your laptop, for a weekend, book a hotel room in Escondido, wake up early and do some work, and then take time each day and/or evening to get over to Wat Metta. The time you carve away will be well worth it.
Thank you for your answer
And what you mean by saying 'I understand that someone from Wat Metta can pick you up in Valley Center if you make arrangements in advance'?
You mean, I cannot drive straight to the monastery?
Is that has to do with that area has no signal for GPS service?

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Post by DNS » Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:47 pm

nobody12345 wrote: They seem like a business to me (I could be wrong but it was my impression).
Few years ago, Joseph Goldstein had a 3 hours and a half talk in my area.
If I remember correctly, I think it was sponsored by http://www.insightla.org.
And the entrance fee for that 3 hours and a half of Dharma talk was 175 dollars.
Wow, that is expensive. I didn't know they did that. And here I found a "pre-event" of only one hour for the cost of $200 per person :o

http://www.insightla.org/schedule_detai ... nt_id=1612

It is things like this that make me a born-again believer in the monastic tradition. At monastic temples the teachings are freely given with just voluntary donations.

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Post by culaavuso » Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:32 pm

nobody12345 wrote: And what you mean by saying 'I understand that someone from Wat Metta can pick you up in Valley Center if you make arrangements in advance'?
You mean, I cannot drive straight to the monastery?
Is that has to do with that area has no signal for GPS service?
You can drive straight to the monastery. There is parking available. Be sure to use the directions on the monastery website, since some GPS units and online map services will provide bad directions. The roads are windy, narrow, and have steep grades in places. It can be difficult to spot the turns when driving there the first time, especially if it's before sunrise as would be necessary for the morning services.

If you choose to take public transport, then you will only get as far as Valley Center. In this case it may be desirable to make arrangements in advance so a car can take you to the monastery. Because of the remote location, taxi services are not an ideal option.

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Post by nobody12345 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:46 pm

David N. Snyder wrote:
nobody12345 wrote: They seem like a business to me (I could be wrong but it was my impression).
Few years ago, Joseph Goldstein had a 3 hours and a half talk in my area.
If I remember correctly, I think it was sponsored by http://www.insightla.org.
And the entrance fee for that 3 hours and a half of Dharma talk was 175 dollars.
Wow, that is expensive. I didn't know they did that. And here I found a "pre-event" of only one hour for the cost of $200 per person :o

http://www.insightla.org/schedule_detai ... nt_id=1612

It is things like this that make me a born-again believer in the monastic tradition. At monastic temples the teachings are freely given with just voluntary donations.
200 dollars per each person for 1 hour talk?
Wow, just wow.
I thought what I saw (175 dollars for 3 hours and a half of talk) was the worst case of making money out of the Dhamma but this new one takes the cake!
Sorry for being blunt but I don't think what they follow is Buddhism.
And I don't think they are Buddhist.
Their action speaks for itself.

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