S.N Goenka

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Re: S.N Goenka

Post by knighter » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:24 am

Hello there

you seem really quite angry makarasilapin
I used to get like that before i completed a
10 day s.n. goenka vipassana course.
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Re: S.N Goenka

Post by Prasadachitta » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:27 am

makarasilapin wrote:
greggorious wrote:I didn't mean for this thread to become so argumentative. I was thinking of going on one of his 10 day retreats, and also want to go on a retreat at Amaravati in London. I like the fact that Theravada retreats are often free of charge, that seems almost Bodhisattva territory :smile:
man, just go to Amravati!
I have close friends who practice regularly at Amravati and on the basis of what they say I would recommend getting teachings there.
"Beautifully taught is the Lord's Dhamma, immediately apparent, timeless, of the nature of a personal invitation, progressive, to be attained by the wise, each for himself." Anguttara Nikaya V.332

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Re: S.N Goenka

Post by Prasadachitta » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:31 am

knighter wrote:Hello there

you seem really quite angry makarasilapin
I used to get like that before i completed a
10 day s.n. goenka vipassana course.
Be happy
knighter

Makarasilapin does not seem angry to me. He/She is just conveying her/his experience.
"Beautifully taught is the Lord's Dhamma, immediately apparent, timeless, of the nature of a personal invitation, progressive, to be attained by the wise, each for himself." Anguttara Nikaya V.332

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Re: S.N Goenka

Post by knighter » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:32 am

Hello there

sorry greggorious i ment to add this
i'd go on both retreats,
for sure.
why go on one if you can go on two.
vipassana is donation only.
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Re: S.N Goenka

Post by knighter » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:33 am

Hello there

Prasadachitta it was a joke
just keeping things light hearted.
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Re: S.N Goenka

Post by makarasilapin » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:34 am

knighter wrote:Hello there

you seem really quite angry makarasilapin
I used to get like that before i completed a
10 day s.n. goenka vipassana course.
Be happy
knighter
haha, i'm not angry at all knighter. i know why you might be offended [as Goenka is your teacher?], but it is not my intention to offend you. i think all of my responses here have been reasonable.

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Re: S.N Goenka

Post by knighter » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:39 am

Hello there

All good makarasilapin i'm not offended
i was just havin a little joke.
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Re: S.N Goenka

Post by makarasilapin » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:41 am

knighter wrote: i was just havin a little joke.
that's something my brother would say! i'm glad i didn't offend you.

be well! :hug:

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Re: S.N Goenka

Post by Prasadachitta » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:43 am

knighter wrote:Hello there

Prasadachitta it was a joke
just keeping things light hearted.
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Ahh.

Humor is a difficult thing to convey in text.

I think thats why we have these

:rolleye: :jumping: :rofl:
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Re: S.N Goenka

Post by Prasadachitta » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:55 am

retrofuturist wrote: I think it's also quite likely that some of the aspects which are out of scope of the technique are some of those which are less compatible with a secular presentation of vipassana. Recollecting the qualities of the Buddha or the Sangha for example, is going to restrict the more universal appeal of a technique which is not formally aligned to any religious denomination.

This seems odd to me. If its true that Non Buddhists(people who do not go for refuge to the three Jewels) are teaching, I think that may be fair grounds for not regarding them as Buddhist teachers much less "Theravada" teachers.
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Re: S.N Goenka

Post by Monkey Mind » Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:00 am

Prasadachitta wrote:
retrofuturist wrote: This seems odd to me. If its true that Non Buddhists(people who do not go for refuge to the three Jewels) are teaching, I think that may be fair grounds for not regarding them as Buddhist teachers much less "Theravada" teachers.
There is more misinformation in this thread then useful information. All students accept refuge to the three Jewels at that start of the retreat. Assistant teachers more so, because they have been dedicated to and immersed in that technique for a long time. I have a great deal of respect for this tradition, I believe my first 10-day retreat was life-altering and inspired incredible faith in the Dhamma. My main criticism of this tradition [on a very short list], is that Mr. Goenka calls it "secular". It seems U Ba Khin was very clearly teaching a Buddhist tradition, and other lineage heirs who studied under U Ba Khin are also clearly teaching Buddhism. I think the "secular" label is so important to Mr. Goenka because it was his mission to bring this practice back to India.
"As I am, so are others;
as others are, so am I."
Having thus identified self and others,
harm no one nor have them harmed.

Sutta Nipāta 3.710

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Re: S.N Goenka

Post by convivium » Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:11 am

There is more misinformation in this thread then useful information.
not from me :roll:
Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php

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Re: S.N Goenka

Post by Monkey Mind » Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:35 am

convivium wrote:
There is more misinformation in this thread then useful information.
not from me :roll:
You are somewhere between here: :soap: and here: :stirthepot: , and it reads a bit like :alien:
"As I am, so are others;
as others are, so am I."
Having thus identified self and others,
harm no one nor have them harmed.

Sutta Nipāta 3.710

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Re: S.N Goenka

Post by convivium » Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:35 am

:rofl:
i'm a philosophy major at uc berkeley.
Just keep breathing in and out like this. Don't be interested in anything else. It doesn't matter even if someone is standing on their head with their ass in the air. Don't pay it any attention. Just stay with the in-breath and the out-breath. Concentrate your awareness on the breath. Just keep doing it. http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/Just_Do_It_1_2.php

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Re: S.N Goenka

Post by Monkey Mind » Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:40 am

convivium wrote::rofl:
i'm a philosophy major at uc berkeley.
:jumping: Now it all makes sense! Good luck with that, philosophy was one of two classes I flunked in my college career, seems I just don't have an aptitude for it.
"As I am, so are others;
as others are, so am I."
Having thus identified self and others,
harm no one nor have them harmed.

Sutta Nipāta 3.710

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