Hi ignobleoneignobleone wrote:When I ask what clues he has concerning the 1st jhana, I don't see he has some other things beside the jhana factors.
Obviously that's what the Buddha taught.
We're all clueless to certain extent so long as we haven't eradicated all fetters.ignobleone wrote:I wonder if he has categorized people including himself (into 'clueless' and 'not clueless' category) correctly
A reminder of that is worth gold, as it does not unnecessarily build up false expectations.
The Dhamma practise is not like collecting trick-or-treat candy, but rather like peeling off onion layers.
Should one a man of wisdom meet
who points out faults and gives reproof,
who lays a hidden treasure bare,
with such a sage should one consort.
Consorting so is one enriched
and never in decline. - Dhp verse 76
Most if not all descriptions/views of jhana I've read by respected teachers and good men were weird and not helpful.ignobleone wrote:weird views on jhana.
There's a reason the Buddha only gave us a short formula in all the 10'000s of suttas, and it's not because "jhana was common back then".
Just practise the Noble Eightful Path thoroughly and you'll see for yourself.