Dhammakaya leader 'knows' the reincarnation of Steve Jobs!

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Re: Dhammakaya leader 'knows' the reincarnation of Steve Jobs!

Post by dhammarelax » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:46 pm

Dhammanando wrote:
dhammarelax wrote:Having said that and abruptly changing the subject I would like to ask what would be the best way to convince an ardent follower of the Dhammakaya to try a different practice,
I only wish I knew. As it is I've no idea at all what things are effective in freeing people from mental enslavement to this ghastly outfit. Perhaps the best person to consult on this would be Mano Laohavanich (the former monk Mettānando) who used to be quite a big shot in the organization but is now very critical of it.

He has two Facebook pages, but I don't know which (if either) is current...

https://www.facebook.com/mano.laohavanich

https://www.facebook.com/manomettanando.laohavanich
Hi Bhante

Thanks for the links but I am not a fakebook user, have you come across of his email anywhere? I will have to do some thinking on this, so far the main weakness I see in their thought world is probably the atta business but is going to be difficult to speak at this level with my friend, although very committed to them, it seems that knowledge of the Nikayas is almost null. And has mentioned to have some known some people to actually see this body of light that never gets old in their meditation.

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Re: Dhammakaya leader 'knows' the reincarnation of Steve Jobs!

Post by Dhammanando » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:05 am

dhammarelax wrote:Thanks for the links but I am not a fakebook user, have you come across of his email anywhere?
No, I'm afraid not.
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Re: Dhammakaya leader 'knows' the reincarnation of Steve Jobs!

Post by Kumara » Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:00 am

dhammarelax wrote:what would be the best way to convince an ardent follower of the Dhammakaya to try a different practice, someone I know is under their influence and after reading things like:

From http://blogs.dickinson.edu/buddhistethics/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It's typical of a religious cult, but don't tell your friend that. A cultist doesn't know he's in a cult. When he knows he's already out of it, though much still remains to be done to recover.
I am worried and want to do something, if you know some simple arguments would be great.
Arguments can't convince a co-opted mind. If you want to help, you need lots of understanding first. I suggest this site: https://freedomofmind.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'm not just a monk. I'm a human being. — Sayadaw U Jotika

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Re: Dhammakaya leader 'knows' the reincarnation of Steve Jobs!

Post by samseva » Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:31 am

dhammarelax wrote:I will have to do some thinking on this, so far the main weakness I see in their thought world is probably the atta business but is going to be difficult to speak at this level with my friend, although very committed to them, it seems that knowledge of the Nikayas is almost null. And has mentioned to have some known some people to actually see this body of light that never gets old in their meditation.

smile all the time
dhammarelax
This might be of some use to you.
http://www.culteducation.com/group/1256 ... versy.html

Plus Dhammachayo's possible pārājika offense accusation by Sangharaja Somdet Nyanasamvara Thera and Ajahn Visalo.

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Re: Dhammakaya leader 'knows' the reincarnation of Steve Jobs!

Post by ieee23 » Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:25 pm

I would be more interested finding the reincarnation of Dr. Ian Stevenson. It would be fun to interview him to see how his opinions have changed :).
Whatever a bhikkhu frequently thinks and ponders upon, that will become the inclination of his mind. - MN 19

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