Tantric Theravada?

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths - what can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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Grigoris
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Re: Tantric Theravada?

Post by Grigoris » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:24 pm

sentinel wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:26 am
Has anyone ever met any Thai (tantric) monk whom practise vajrayana in Thailand ?
Yes, I have. I met a senior monk at this temple, we talked for quite a while and he guided me through a technique too.

Not exactly Vajrayana though. Although the technique he taught me was very similar to Vajrayana techniques that I have been taught.
ye dhammā hetuppabhavā tesaṁ hetuṁ tathāgato āha,
tesaṃca yo nirodho - evaṁvādī mahāsamaṇo.

Of those phenomena which arise from causes:
Those causes have been taught by the Tathāgata,
And their cessation too - thus proclaims the Great Ascetic.

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Re: Tantric Theravada?

Post by Caodemarte » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:12 pm

Grigoris wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:49 am
... are not blasphemous, quite the contrary...
No one here said anybody was. I was trying to explain some traditional attitudes and sensitivities in Buddhist majority SE Asia, including Thailand. I hope no one has taken offense.

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Re: Tantric Theravada?

Post by form » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:55 pm

Grigoris wrote:
Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:55 am
DooDoot wrote:
Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:32 am
Grigoris wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:04 am
Had an interesting time tracking down Tantric Theravada teachers in Bangkok.
This seems to be equating "Thailand" with "Theravada". Religion in Thailand is very diverse.
I am not trying to do anything of the sort, I am just using Thailand as an example of a Theravada country. Many of the heterodox practices in Thailand came from Cambodia, which would seem to imply that Cambodian Theravada is not all that orthodox either.

Actually, orthodoxy is generally a (limiting) mental concept that rarely has a basis in reality.
Once a practice is not strictly confined to the literal meaning in English-translated nikaya it will be considered as unorthodox? Bear in mind, many parts were translated by authors that do not directly know what the parent content means.

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Re: Tantric Theravada?

Post by sentinel » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:23 am

Grigoris wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:24 pm
sentinel wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:26 am
Has anyone ever met any Thai (tantric) monk whom practise vajrayana in Thailand ?
Yes, I have. I met a senior monk at this temple, we talked for quite a while and he guided me through a technique too.

Not exactly Vajrayana though. Although the technique he taught me was very similar to Vajrayana techniques that I have been taught.
How does one knows it is Tibetan vajrayana ?
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Re: Tantric Theravada?

Post by Grigoris » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:32 am

sentinel wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:23 am
How does one knows it is Tibetan vajrayana ?
As opposed to... :shrug:

This is a Tibetan Vajrayana temple in Thailand: https://www.facebook.com/RangjungYesheThailand/
ye dhammā hetuppabhavā tesaṁ hetuṁ tathāgato āha,
tesaṃca yo nirodho - evaṁvādī mahāsamaṇo.

Of those phenomena which arise from causes:
Those causes have been taught by the Tathāgata,
And their cessation too - thus proclaims the Great Ascetic.

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Re: Tantric Theravada?

Post by sentinel » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:39 am

Grigoris wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:32 am
sentinel wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:23 am
How does one knows it is Tibetan vajrayana ?
As opposed to... :shrug:

This is a Tibetan Vajrayana temple in Thailand: https://www.facebook.com/RangjungYesheThailand/
I meant he should be a Thai monk , not Tsikey Chokling Rinpoche. Though I met him before .
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Re: Tantric Theravada?

Post by Grigoris » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:58 am

sentinel wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:39 am
I meant he should be a Thai monk , not Tsikey Chokling Rinpoche. Though I met him before .
I gave you a link to a Thai temple with Thai monks in my previous response to you.

NOT Tibetan Vajrayana.

If you go to a Tibetan temple you will, strangely enough, find Tibetan teachers.
ye dhammā hetuppabhavā tesaṁ hetuṁ tathāgato āha,
tesaṃca yo nirodho - evaṁvādī mahāsamaṇo.

Of those phenomena which arise from causes:
Those causes have been taught by the Tathāgata,
And their cessation too - thus proclaims the Great Ascetic.

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Re: Tantric Theravada?

Post by Sabbe_Dhamma_Anatta » Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:23 pm

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