Hi Mike, allmikenz66 wrote:You mean the "true self" stuff here?lyndon taylor wrote:Over on freesangha, Tilt, they're saying all kinds of things!!! Not so much here!!!That's certainly a very odd interpretation from a Theravada point of view.Consciousness in the context of the 5 skandhas, vinnana - is sense consciousness, i.e., cognitive thoughts. Thoughts arise and cease, but that which is aware of the arising and ceasing does NOT arise nor cease.
Vinnana is NOT the Citta - thoughts are NOT the True Mind. But people confuse this all the time.
Thoughts arise and cease. But the True Mind does not arise nor cease along with those thoughts.
It is extremely important to make this distinction.
http://www.freesangha.com/forums/genera ... /#msg64294
It's a tricky one and I won't pretend to know the answer. I've certainly heard some (Mahayana) teachers that I have a great deal of respect for, say similar things and there is scriptural support for it. My (current) take on this is that it is all too easy to reify various aspects of the mind that are conditioned and take them for "the True Mind". Whatever the True/Original/Buddha nature refers to is beyond any subjectivity, beyond anything that can be "me" or "mine" - there are no obstacles there, no place to pitch a tent and build new identifications. That's why it is called "non-abiding".