Mind lives on after death?

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Re: Mind lives on after death?

Post by pegembara » Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:14 am

Sam Vara wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:53 pm
pegembara wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:47 pm
Sam Vara wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:09 pm


1) Is a self something that one cannot point to?

2) Can one point to the impersonal citta? Where is it? Or, by "pointing", do you mean "referring", as in "How can it be self if one can refer to it?"

3) If so, is a self something that one cannot refer to?
An example. One can only see an image of one's self but never directly. Or talk to oneself. At the core there isn't really anything there. Self is a convenient fiction. False illusion appearing real. Only to be found by identifying with things.
Yes, I see. I was wondering if you derived a "self" from the notion of "impersonal citta" - some people do! Your position, if I have understood it, is that the impersonal citta is not part of the 5 aggregates, but nor is it a self, because self is a term which applies only to an illusion.
How does one claim ownership of a beautiful scenery? Self is born each time one lays claim on something. It isn't felt when one is absorbed in a beautiful music, dance or painting.

It isn't an aggregate, so one can point out and say that is form, feeling, perception,formations and consciousness. One is not that.
And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from abusive speech, & from idle chatter: This is called right speech.

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