Who is Mara?

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Re: Who is Mara?

Post by Dhammarakkhito » Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:33 am

when buddha uses a simile he makes it clear that it is a simile. and like the last guy said, right view
"Just as the ocean has a single taste — that of salt — in the same way, this Dhamma-Vinaya has a single taste: that of release."
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Re: Who is Mara?

Post by Aloka » Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:59 am

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Ajahn Amaro - "I know you Mara" (6 minute extract from"Practicing with the Four Noble Truths").





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Post by Dhammarakkhito » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:12 am

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"Just as the ocean has a single taste — that of salt — in the same way, this Dhamma-Vinaya has a single taste: that of release."
— Ud 5.5

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Re: Who is Mara?

Post by Dhammanando » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:27 am

Opapātika has both a narrow and a broad sense. In its narrow sense it means beings born apparitionally, such as devas, pretas and hell beings. In its broad sense it is connected with the upapāta part of cutūpapāta(-ñāṇa), "(knowledge of) the passing away and reappearance of beings". In other words, it refers to any being who has been reborn.

In the commentaries opapātika in the context of mundane right view is understood as being used in the broad sense. And so according to this understanding, the proper translation will not be, "There are apparitionally generated beings", but rather, "There are beings who reappear/get reborn." Mundane right view here is belief in rebirth, not belief in devas, māras, brahmās, petas, etc.

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Re: Who is Mara?

Post by Nicolas » Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:15 pm

Thanks for the clarification, Bhante.

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Re: Who is Mara?

Post by unveiledartist » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:01 am

SamKR wrote:
Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:16 am
The Buddha suggests frequently (in Tipitaka) to overcome Mara. But who is Mara? Reading the Suttas I get impression that Mara is a real evil being.
I am looking for a clear and concise answer, but I would welcome any of your inputs regarding this question.
Thank you.
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One time I think Brahma incarnated as Mara in order to trick The Buddha into thinking that everything is perment and eternal. The incarnation represented a personification of someone causing The Buddha into deluted thought. Like other analogies, The Buddha conversed with Mara (diciples, or other etc) and won the debate. Mara/Brahma kneeled to The Buddha exclaiming The Buddha's wisdom. Its a message that the delusion has been overthrown. A lot of messages are in form of analogies and dialogue.

The Brahma Invitation
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .than.html
(Buddha said), "Monks, do not wage wordy warfare, saying: 'You don't understand this Dhamma and discipline, I understand this Dhamma and discipline'; 'How could you understand it? You have fallen into wrong practices: I have the right practice."~AN 4.183. Dont speak ill of other people and traditions with whom teach The Dharma. Right speech is respect in agreements and disagreements alike.

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