Did Buddha mentioned about equality?

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Did Buddha mentioned about equality?

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This is a good article with canonical references on the illegitimacy of the caste system https://www.google.com/amp/s/tricycle.o ... acist/amp/
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Māgaṇḍiya Sutta (Snp 4.9) wrote: Whoever supposes himself to be equal, superior or inferior
Would contend with others because of it.
But for one who is untroubled by these three modes of thought
There is nobody equal, superior or inferior.


Also: "Why not me?" (Not directly related to equality, but it came to mind.)
Bhikkhunī Sutta (AN 4.159) wrote: ‘This body comes into being through conceit. And yet it is by relying on conceit that conceit is to be abandoned.’ Thus it was said. And in reference to what was it said? There is the case, sister, where a monk hears, ‘The monk named such-&-such, they say, through the ending of the effluents, has entered & remains in the effluent-free awareness-release & discernment-release, having directly known & realized them for himself right in the here & now.’ The thought occurs to him, ‘The monk named such-&-such, they say, through the ending of the effluents, has entered & remains in the effluent-free awareness-release & discernment-release, having directly known & realized them for himself right in the here & now. Then why not me?’ Then, at a later time, he abandons conceit, having relied on conceit. ‘This body comes into being through conceit. And yet it is by relying on conceit that conceit is to be abandoned.’ Thus it was said, and in reference to this was it said.

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The lord Buddha was not a social reformer, hence i doubt you will find the idea of equality taught in a similar fashion to its modern use.

One of the benefits of following the Buddha's teachings is that the individual is not reduced to a mere member of the group which is the mindset behind most social reformers. By not putting too much faith into social solutions to the problem of suffering, the practitioner grew dispassionate about them. Dispassion is a necessary condition for wise reflection, and wise reflection implies a certain degree of suspicion towards worldly virtues (including the idea of equality), as they are often misused to hide everything that is wrong about us. The end of misuse is the beginning of skillful use.
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Hello:

Like everyone is equal ?, or everyone should have the same opportunities in life?.
I dont think the Buddha believed that, because is not a real thing.

-There a superior and inferior beings in beauty, birth, intelligence, wisdom, morals, etc
-Beings are heirs of their kamma, so we experience different things.

What the Buddha was against was dogmas like "because i am aristocrat, i will always be superior to a person born in a lower caste" .
Again, this is like saying: "tall people are always good in basketball". It doesnt mean tall people are not more prone to being good at the sport, it means is not the ultimate factor.

He was more into: "Its not about race, color or birth, its about the mind".

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What does equality here refer to ?

https://suttacentral.net/an9.5/en/sujato

The best kind of equality is the equality of a stream-enterer with another stream-enterer, a once-returner with another once-returner, a non-returner with another non-returner, and a perfected one with another perfected one.
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Bundokji wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:10 pm
By not putting too much faith into social solutions to the problem of suffering, the practitioner grew dispassionate about them. Dispassion is a necessary condition for wise reflection, and wise reflection implies a certain degree of suspicion towards worldly virtues (including the idea of equality), as they are often misused to hide everything that is wrong about us. The end of misuse is the beginning of skillful use.
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And what is the power of inclusiveness? There are these four ways of being inclusive. Giving, kindly words, taking care, and equality. The best of gifts is the gift of the teaching. The best sort of kindly speech is to teach the Dhamma again and again to someone who is engaged and who lends an ear. The best way of taking care is to encourage, settle, and ground the unfaithful in faith, the unethical in ethics, the stingy in generosity, and the ignorant in wisdom. The best kind of equality is the equality of a stream-enterer with another stream-enterer, a once-returner with another once-returner, a non-returner with another non-returner, and a perfected one with another perfected one. This is called the power of inclusiveness.
To be inclusive, imo, you have to recognize and support the potential of others; as this is intrinsic to developing one's own potential, there is equality . This recognizes variations in development needs, while affirming a unity and mutual help in following the path. But in terms of differences of progress, one can recognize that the same stages in different lives have much in common.
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