Is this phrase from vinaya pitaka?By committing suicide, a bhikkhu commits pārājika 3 and thus passes away as a lay man.
Are suicide mean taking own life?
Suicide is the action of killing oneself; euthanasia is the practice of assisting in the suicide of another. The Vinaya text
The Pali text says:The Pārājika offence is for killing a human being aside from oneself. A bhikkhu who attempts suicide incurs a Dukkaṭa.
1. Deprives of life (jīvitā voropeyya)"Yo pana bhikkhu sañcicca manussaviggahaṃ jīvitā voropeyya,sattahārakaṃ vāssa pariyeseyya, maraṇavaṇṇaṃ vā saṃvaṇṇayya, maraṇāya vā samādapeyya, " ambo purisa kiṃ tuyhiminā dujjīvitena mataṃ te jīvitā seyyo " ti, iti cittamano cittasiṅkappo anekapariyayena maraṇavaṇṇaṃ vā saṃvaṇṇayya, maraṇāya vā samādapeyya, ayampi pārājiko hoti asaṃvāso."
But were there not many suttas of these monastics committing suicide. Or were they laypersons? I believe they were referred to as arahants if I recall.DNS wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 4:11 amAn arahant would not be reprimanded because an arahant would not attempt suicide, as noted by robert above. Bhikkhu Pesala is referring to a bhikkhu who is not an arahant.thepea wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:51 amSo, if an arahant attempts to commit suicide it is an offense of wrong doing. How would the arahant be reprimanded for this?
If successful, I imagine they would be celebrated for their end to samsara.
Seems odd, or, if an arahant attempts suicide is it not a wrong doing?
Not sure if that is true, many people who fail at committing suicide go on to work and live very functional lives. Some even reach enlightenment.
What reality distortion?form wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:26 pm
The bigger the gap the more crazy is the person. Dhamma is about ultimate reality, so there is overlapping.
I’m not trying to be difficult, but your gap analogy, I’m not following it.
https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/20-cog ... fe-0407154thepea wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:05 pmI’m not trying to be difficult, but your gap analogy, I’m not following it.