What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)

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After Stream Entry I think I will:

Relax
6
20%
Make futher effort
19
63%
Something other(What?)
5
17%
 
Total votes: 30

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Re: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)

Post by Dinsdale » Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:18 pm

Eat more ice-cream. Obviously.
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Re: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)

Post by JohnK » Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:57 pm

Enjoy the relief of the stream's cool water and then have a friend toss me the soap to scrub-a-dub-dub.
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Re: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)

Post by sunnat » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:35 pm

Because it's such an event an impulse is to delight. One is not free from fetters. As the dust settles a few things become clear. There is an underlying tendency to delight in pleasant sensation, to chase the high. There is an underlying tendency to shy away from unpleasant sensation. There is an underlying tendency to ignore neutral sensation. I-conceit is still there. At the same time one is more aware of, more sensitive to, sensations, feelings so the reality of suffering is greater while one is also more certain about the four noble truths and ultimately the only choice is to continue to strive diligently.

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Re: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)

Post by 2600htz » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:46 pm

Hello:

If you become good at something, you have even more interest in that theme.

Regards.

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Re: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)

Post by Alīno » Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:12 am

sunnat wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:35 pm
Because it's such an event an impulse is to delight. One is not free from fetters. As the dust settles a few things become clear. There is an underlying tendency to delight in pleasant sensation, to chase the high. There is an underlying tendency to shy away from unpleasant sensation. There is an underlying tendency to ignore neutral sensation. I-conceit is still there. At the same time one is more aware of, more sensitive to, sensations, feelings so the reality of suffering is greater while one is also more certain about the four noble truths and ultimately the only choice is to continue to strive diligently.
Thank Sunnat :anjali:
Very intresting observation ... So actualy Sotapanna have no choice, naturaly he will strive futher pushed by suffering... or he may abandon and indulge the sensual sphere but he will soon realise that he still suffer even more rather while applying diligent effort in practice, so naruraly he will go back to the work... intresting

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Re: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)

Post by Disciple » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:20 pm

celebrate with hookers and cocaine :woohoo:

(just kidding)

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Re: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)

Post by SDC » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:48 pm

Disciple wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:20 pm
celebrate with hookers and cocaine :woohoo:

(just kidding)
I mean if you're just with the hookers and cocaine, not partaking in either, then you're good. Like, "Hey I'm just having this party to point out the fact that I don't need either of these things to make me happy." At that point the hookers will probably rob you of the coke and your money...but at least it will be a good story...

:embarassed:

:toilet:

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Re: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)

Post by SarathW » Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:45 pm

It is important to keep in mind the story of Visaka.
She was a Sotapanna and never became an Arahant in this life.
There is a story that she was with his party-going (drunk) friends and visiting Buddha.
But she did not break the precepts.
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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Re: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)

Post by SarathW » Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:52 pm

What is meant by relaxing here?
Is that meditation?
Is that unmindfulness?
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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Re: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)

Post by Disciple » Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:22 am

SDC wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:48 pm
Disciple wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:20 pm
celebrate with hookers and cocaine :woohoo:

(just kidding)
I mean if you're just with the hookers and cocaine, not partaking in either, then you're good. Like, "Hey I'm just having this party to point out the fact that I don't need either of these things to make me happy." At that point the hookers will probably rob you of the coke and your money...but at least it will be a good story...

:embarassed:

:toilet:
:lol: :twothumbsup:

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Re: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)

Post by Aloka » Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:44 am

After Stream Entry I think I will:

Relax (as in letting go of conceptual thinking) - and talk less.


:)

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Re: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)

Post by Alīno » Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:09 am

SarathW wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:52 pm
What is meant by relaxing here?
Is that meditation?
Is that unmindfulness?
Good question ;)

I think is:
- Indulge in sensual stimulations
- Not trying to take 8 precepts
- Satisfying with lay life

Because logically the next stage is going beyond sensuality, so one need to put light on them with 8 precepts/monastic life and developing Jhanas... So relaxing here is to not seeking to go futher I think )

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Re: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)

Post by SarathW » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:47 am

In that sense, I can't recall there is any Sutta Buddha instructing anyone not to go beyond Sotapanna state.
If any of his advise is to strive harder to attain the final goal.
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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Re: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)

Post by Srilankaputra » Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:31 pm

These beings are said to occupy a plane or dimension quite impossible for the puthujjana mind to conceptualise(Ariyabhumi). I suspect, whatever plans I make here will not hold water in that reality. Maybe stay as a lay person like Visaka or ordain. Not sure.
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Tattha tattha vipassati

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Na dukkhameti naṃ tato tato;
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Re: What you will do after Stream Entry ? (Poll)

Post by thepea » Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:16 am

Raise an NHL quality goalie.

I believe Buddha said to Ananda in Jetty’s grove,
“Keep your stick on the ice.”

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