Don't mistake doubt for enquiry

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Don't mistake doubt for enquiry

Post by sunnat » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:59 am

All doubt is anicca. Don't feed it by being in its thrall and mistake it for enquiry.

Likewise, don't mistake absence of doubt as a particular attainment. The fact there is doubt can be good in the sense it being an indicator of progress. The time for it has come. Just be aware and it changes, passes away.

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Re: Don't mistake doubt for enquiry

Post by sunnat » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:33 am

asking a question because of a doubt is wrong.
instead, quietly, calmly, introspectively, again and again, revisit the point.
in time of doubt the doubt will cease and that which was a question will no longer be.
like some of the hindrance of doubt will no longer be

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Re: Don't mistake doubt for enquiry

Post by JamesTheGiant » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:45 am

I thought the suttas said the antidote for the hindrance of Doubt is Inquiry?

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Re: Don't mistake doubt for enquiry

Post by sunnat » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:48 am

If inquiry is in-sight (wisdom) , yes

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Re: Don't mistake doubt for enquiry

Post by JamesTheGiant » Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:09 am

sunnat wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:48 am
If inquiry is in-sight (wisdom) , yes
No I don't think it was that subtle, it meant inquiry in the sense of simply asking questions and investigating.
Sorry I don't have a sutta reference, I wonder if someone else knows where this was? :namaste:

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Re: Don't mistake doubt for enquiry

Post by Bundokji » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:20 am

Another useful distinction in my opinion is between doubt and skepticism. The former is a result of genuine lack of knowledge or understanding, while the later is a general attitude based on attachment to certain beliefs.

Doubt is the main driver behind inquiry until certainty is reached. Skepticism is unwarranted certainty (in disguise) which hinders inquiry needed for justified/warranted certainty.
And the Blessed One addressed the bhikkhus, saying: "Behold now, bhikkhus, I exhort you: All compounded things are subject to vanish. Strive with earnestness!"

This was the last word of the Tathagata.

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Re: Don't mistake doubt for enquiry

Post by sunnat » Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:20 am

Faith and Wisdom. They work together. In-sight (meditation) leads to experiential wisdom in stages, each step confirming that the practice is correct. In turn, true faith, confidence, is established. Continuing practice while assailed by doubt is a wisdom born of grounded faith.

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Re: Don't mistake doubt for enquiry

Post by SarathW » Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:56 am

"It is proper for you, Kalamas, to doubt, to be uncertain; uncertainty has arisen in you about what is doubtful. Come, Kalamas. Do not go upon what has been acquired by repeated hearing; nor upon tradition; nor upon rumor; nor upon what is in a scripture; nor upon surmise; nor upon an axiom; nor upon specious reasoning; nor upon a bias towards a notion that has been pondered over; nor upon another's seeming ability; nor upon the consideration, 'The monk is our teacher.' Kalamas, when you yourselves know: 'These things are bad; these things are blamable; these things are censured by the wise; undertaken and observed, these things lead to harm and ill,' abandon them.

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Re: Don't mistake doubt for enquiry

Post by salayatananirodha » Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:46 pm

skepticism is different from not immediately accepting what information is given to you
16. 'In what has the world originated?' — so said the Yakkha Hemavata, — 'with what is the world intimate? by what is the world afflicted, after having grasped at what?' (167)

17. 'In six the world has originated, O Hemavata,' — so said Bhagavat, — 'with six it is intimate, by six the world is afflicted, after having grasped at six.' (168)

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Re: Don't mistake doubt for enquiry

Post by binocular » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:35 pm

sunnat wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:33 am
asking a question because of a doubt is wrong.
instead, quietly, calmly, introspectively, again and again, revisit the point.
in time of doubt the doubt will cease and that which was a question will no longer be.
like some of the hindrance of doubt will no longer be
As long as such revisiting is done in the context of faith in the Dhamma.
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