Religious tolerance

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Religious tolerance

Post by form » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:30 am

Did the Buddha promote tolerance towards other religions?

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Re: Religious tolerance

Post by rolling_boulder » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:21 am

Sure, there was even a spot at (I believe) the Jeta grove monastery for Jain ascetics to live
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Re: Religious tolerance

Post by Sherab » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:46 am

form wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:30 am
Did the Buddha promote tolerance towards other religions?
What a weird question. Why would the Buddha promote tolerance or intolerance of any religion? The Buddha was only interested in liberating sentient beings from senseless samsara. That's it and nothing else.

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Re: Religious tolerance

Post by JamesTheGiant » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:34 am

Sherab wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:46 am
The Buddha was only interested in liberating sentient beings from senseless samsara. That's it and nothing else.
Not at all. Have you read the suttas?
He have advice to householders about how to have a happy and healthy life, he advised devout lay-followers of other religions to continue to support their sadhus and recluses, he gave advice to kings and princess about how to run an effective kingdom, he talked about a lot of worldly things.

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Re: Religious tolerance

Post by form » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:46 am

I am sorry that I did not put the background for this discussion topic earlier. It came from my recent reading Dr W Rahula "what did the Buddha taught" again.

He proposed this which caught my attention this time and he cited the sutta about what the Buddha said to a Jain that wanted to be a Buddhist being counter convinced after a debate, to continue to respect jain stuff etc. He also cited the rule of a Buddhist king that allowed religious tolerance.

This is quite a change for me as I often read about Buddha debate with other sects that only one can be correct.

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Re: Religious tolerance

Post by form » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:47 am

JamesTheGiant wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:34 am
Sherab wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:46 am
The Buddha was only interested in liberating sentient beings from senseless samsara. That's it and nothing else.
Not at all. Have you read the suttas?
He have advice to householders about how to have a happy and healthy life, he advised devout lay-followers of other religions to continue to support their sadhus and recluses, he gave advice to kings and princess about how to run an effective kingdom, he talked about a lot of worldly things.
I was just going thru those. Indeed very practical and meant for everyday life.

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Re: Religious tolerance

Post by binocular » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:04 am

JamesTheGiant wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:34 am
He have advice to householders about how to have a happy and healthy life, he advised devout lay-followers of other religions to continue to support their sadhus and recluses, he gave advice to kings and princess about how to run an effective kingdom, he talked about a lot of worldly things.
He was also skilled in the art of talking diplomatically.
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Re: Religious tolerance

Post by form » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:52 am

binocular wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:04 am
JamesTheGiant wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:34 am
He have advice to householders about how to have a happy and healthy life, he advised devout lay-followers of other religions to continue to support their sadhus and recluses, he gave advice to kings and princess about how to run an effective kingdom, he talked about a lot of worldly things.
He was also skilled in the art of talking diplomatically.
Especially in the case when he talked to a king that killed his own father, if he dun talk carefully, he may be killed or faced something bad. After the king left, then he revealed unfavourable things about the king.

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Re: Religious tolerance

Post by Ceisiwr » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:04 pm

I would say it depends on the religion

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Re: Religious tolerance

Post by Antaradhana » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:44 pm

It is important to understand that at the time of the Buddha in the territory of the Indian principalities, there was only one formed religion - Brahmanism. Buddha did not recognize the authority of the Vedas, and also said that in earlier times (era), the brahmans led a righteous life, and the current brahmanas mired in debauchery, chasing fame and wealth, and well as polluted themselves with bloody sacrifices. Buddha tried to turn the Brahmins to Dhamma, and some of them became either monks or worldly followers of the Buddha. New teachings appeared among the samans, such as the teachings of the Makkhali Gosala and Nigantha Nataputta, but the Buddha strongly criticized their teachings as false and leading to decay.
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Re: Religious tolerance

Post by binocular » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:37 pm

form wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:52 am
Especially in the case when he talked to a king that killed his own father, if he dun talk carefully, he may be killed or faced something bad. After the king left, then he revealed unfavourable things about the king.
Hence one needs to be careful and not jump to the conclusion that the suttas support modern ecumenical ideas like religious tolerance.
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Re: Religious tolerance

Post by Sherab » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:07 pm

JamesTheGiant wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:34 am
Sherab wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:46 am
The Buddha was only interested in liberating sentient beings from senseless samsara. That's it and nothing else.
Not at all. Have you read the suttas?
He have advice to householders about how to have a happy and healthy life, he advised devout lay-followers of other religions to continue to support their sadhus and recluses, he gave advice to kings and princess about how to run an effective kingdom, he talked about a lot of worldly things.
Yes but these are borne of expediencies and tailored to specific individuals or situations. It is not promotion per se. If it is promotion, it would as a support to the promotion of the Dhamma of liberation of the Buddha.

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