You would have to ask someone who has mastered them for that information....but from my memory of things I have read in passing (and not substantiated) it seems like a pleasant abiding and maybe a pleasant rebirth......but let's face it.....if one has mastered the arupas one has likely mastered the rupas as well and if one has mastered the rupas it seems that it is probably only a matter of obtaining right view with which to direct that mastery in the right direction which is needed to attain the goal.Pulsar wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:36 pm Chownah wroteAre you able to tell me what extra benefit they received by engaging in the 4 Arupas?I think you are probably correct in this although they do seem to have benefitted some individuals
Buddha himself had learnt the Arupas from his teachers Alara Kalama and Uddkarama Putta, and rejected them,
since they only lead one to Brahma Worlds. What helped Buddha was the memory of first rupa Jhana
he engaged in as a child, under the rose apple tree.
For Buddha the goal was the release from suffering, not rebirth in brahma worlds.
Thank you for being polite Chownah
Can you bring a sutta where the buddha "rejected" the arupas?.....I seem to remember that he realized that they were not enough for enlighenment but that in itself does not qualify as "rejection" in my mind.