'investigating'

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sunnat
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'investigating'

Post by sunnat » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:13 am

. It's all about mindset. Attitude. Direction of attack. Way of thinking. How the mind is bent, tuned, turned.
The path outlined by the Buddha is purely practical.
One aspect in need of addressing is the worthy matter of 'investigating'.
It means to have the mind properly turned towards a subject. When the mind is properly tuned it is able to maintain the awareness of anicca. This is an investigative mindset. The subject, such as the Dhamma, needs to be one that doesn't invite further cravings, aversions or ignorance. It means that when one is practicing the path there is a correct way to focus the mind in order to have the correct in - sight.

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Re: 'investigating'

Post by Dinsdale » Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:16 pm

Are you thinking of dhamma vicaya here?
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Re: 'investigating'

Post by sunnat » Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:31 am

thank you, yes

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Re: 'investigating'

Post by chownah » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:14 am

Is vicaya the same as vicara?
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Re: 'investigating'

Post by sunnat » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:47 am

. The following, from https://www.perthmeditationcentre.com.a ... of-a-word/ explains it :

"Finally, there are four other Pali terms that reflect different aspects of sati. Vitakka-vicara literally mean ‘selective, sustained attention’. Vitakka means the circling around, or the orienting of the mind, toward the object. Cognitive psychology tells us that this is the first stage of focusing on anything at all. Vicara comes next. It mean ‘sustained’ attention, or locking on the object and staying with it uninterruptedly. Vitakka-vicara leads to the undistracted streaming of attention in one direction, and it is regarded as the entry into the first of the jhanas, or trance states.
The term dhamma-vicaya (which is the second of the seven Factors of Enlightenment) explains why you would do this. This means looking deeply (vicaya) into the mental phenomena that arise (dhamma) in meditation. For a monk, this meant seeing that every single perception is impermanent (anicca) a potential source of suffering (dukkha), and devoid of any lasting identity (anatta) "

edit add."For a monk, this meant seeing that every single perception is anicca" is better stated :... seeing anicca. or:... having awareness of anicca... which means getting, or leading to, an understanding that "every single perception is anicca"

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Re: 'investigating'

Post by Dinsdale » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:53 am

sunnat wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:31 am
thank you, yes
There are different ideas about this, but IMO it can be simply explained as applying dhammic principles like anicca to observed phenomena. For example noticing how ones state of mind is continually changing.
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