Power or Persistence

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Power or Persistence

Post by alfa »


I feel that one can let go of things, whatever they are. Even the greatest addiction can be overcome. They are not all that powerful.

But they are persistent. That's the problem.

No matter how many times you overcome, they keep coming back. They are not powerful. They are persistent.

Is it therefore a continuous, apparently never-ending battle? :shrug:

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Re: Power or Persistence

Post by Srilankaputra »

We can let go of things as they come or we can let go right at the root. It's all simply Rupa, vedana, sanna, sankhara and vinnana.

O seeing one,we for refuge go to thee!
O mighty sage do thou our teacher be!

Paccuppannañca yo dhammaṃ,
Tattha tattha vipassati

“Yato yato mano nivāraye,
Na dukkhameti naṃ tato tato;
Sa sabbato mano nivāraye,
Sa sabbato dukkhā pamuccatī”ti.
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Re: Power or Persistence

Post by thang »

MahaJanaka Jataka (Viriya Paramita):
“Who art thou, striving manfully here in mid-ocean far from land?
Who is the friend thou trustest in, to lend to thee a helping hand?”

The Bodhisatta replied, “This is my seventh day here in the ocean, I have not seen a second living being beside myself,—who can it be that speaks to me?” so, looking into the air, he uttered the second stanza:

“Knowing my duty in the world, to strive, O goddess, while I can,
Here in mid ocean far from land I do my utmost like a man.”

Desirous to hear sound doctrine, she uttered to him the third stanza:

“Here in this deep and boundless waste where shore is none to meet the eye,
Thy utmost strivings are in vain,—here in mid-ocean thou must die.”

The Bodhisatta replied, “Why dost thou speak thus? if I perish while I make my best efforts, I shall at all events escape from blame,” and he spoke a stanza:

“He who does all a man can do is free from guilt towards his kin,
The lord of heaven acquits him too and he feels no remorse within.”

Then the goddess spoke a stanza:

What use in strivings such as these, where barren toil is all the gain,
Where there is no reward to win, and only death for all thy pain?

Then the Bodhisatta uttered these stanzas to shew to her her want of discernment:

He who thinks there is nought to win and will not battle while he may,—
Be his the blame whate’er the loss,—’twas his faint heart that lost the day.

Men in this world devise their plans, and do their business as seems best,—
The plans may prosper or may fail,—the unknown future shows the rest.

Seest thou not, goddess, here to-day ’Tis our own actions which decide;
Drowned are the others,—I am saved, and thou art standing by my side.

So I will ever do my best to fight through ocean to the shore;
While strength holds out I still will strive, nor yield till I can strive no more.”
At last she spied him and recognized that he was not an ordinary mortal.
"Bhikkhus, whatever the Tathāgata speaks, _ all that is just so and NOT otherwise."
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