Hi guys ,
It seems the text doesn't provide any definition on the mind ?! Or does it ?
According to Buddha's teachings what meaning is the mind ?
Does the Buddha ever define "mind" ?
Does the Buddha ever define "mind" ?
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Re: Does the Buddha ever define "mind" ?
I don't believe so. I also don't believe he defined consciousness-- although Abhidhamma fans will cite things.
Re: Does the Buddha ever define "mind" ?
What is the Pali word for the mind?
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Re: Does the Buddha ever define "mind" ?
Mind (mano) is internal sense base and
mind object is external sense base .
The resultant of the sense bases meeting ~ is the consciousness (here is mind consciousness) .
Notice that :
consciousness (viññāṇa) is separate (and arises) from mind (mano) .
Here, consciousness cognizes or is aware of its specific sense base (including the mind and mind objects)
However , mano is Not in the list of five aggregates . Nor the citta was mentioned as one of the five aggregates . Also , Both never mentioned in the paticcasamuppada .
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Re: Does the Buddha ever define "mind" ?
Greetings James,
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Metta,
Paul.
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Thus, just as in the Dhamma we are taught to see consciousness as something that arises and passes away, rather than "the consciousness", so too with that which may be mistakenly regarded as "the mind".SN 47.42 wrote:"From the origination of name-&-form is the origination of the mind. From the cessation of name-&-form is the cessation of the mind."
Metta,
Paul.
"Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things."
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types of consciousness arise and ceaseretrofuturist wrote: Thus, just as in the Dhamma we are taught to see consciousness as something that arises and passes away, rather than "the consciousness", so too with that which may be mistakenly regarded as "the mind".
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Re: Does the Buddha ever define "mind" ?
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .than.htmldharmacorps wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:30 pm I don't believe so. I also don't believe he defined consciousness-- although Abhidhamma fans will cite things.
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .than.html"And why do you call it 'consciousness'? Because it cognizes, thus it is called consciousness. What does it cognize? It cognizes what is sour, bitter, pungent, sweet, alkaline, non-alkaline, salty, & unsalty. Because it cognizes, it is called consciousness."
The mind is one of the sense bases....it is not defined just like the eye, ear, tongue, nose, body (the other five sense bases) are not defined."'Consciousness, consciousness': Thus is it said. To what extent, friend, is it said to be 'consciousness'?"
"'It cognizes, it cognizes': Thus, friend, it is said to be 'consciousness.' And what does it cognize? It cognizes 'pleasant.' It cognizes 'painful.' It cognizes 'neither painful nor pleasant.' 'It cognizes, it cognizes': Thus it is said to be 'consciousness.'"
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where is this teaching?chownah wrote: The mind is one of the sense bases....
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One of the six door senses i think.cappuccino wrote: ↑Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:22 amwhere is this teaching?chownah wrote: The mind is one of the sense bases....
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Re: Does the Buddha ever define "mind" ?
why would you think this?form wrote: One of the six door senses i think.
Re: Does the Buddha ever define "mind" ?
Didn't Buddha say that five aggregates are the all?James Tan wrote: ↑Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:52 am
Mind (mano) is internal sense base and
mind object is external sense base .
The resultant of the sense bases meeting ~ is the consciousness (here is mind consciousness) .
Notice that :
consciousness (viññāṇa) is separate (and arises) from mind (mano) .
Here, consciousness cognizes or is aware of its specific sense base (including the mind and mind objects)
However , mano is Not in the list of five aggregates . Nor the citta was mentioned as one of the five aggregates . Also , Both never mentioned in the paticcasamuppada .
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”
Re: Does the Buddha ever define "mind" ?
Technically. If it is just based on the operations of six sense bases.cappuccino wrote: ↑Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:30 amwhy would you think this?form wrote: One of the six door senses i think.
If based on thereotically, it is aggregates after aggregates, forming and disintegrating.
Re: Does the Buddha ever define "mind" ?
I think Cula Vedalla and Mahavedalla Sutta address this matter in MN43 an MN44
“They speak of ‘consciousness’. How is consciousness defined?”
“It’s called consciousness because it cognizes. And what does it cognize? It cognizes ‘pleasure’ and ‘pain’ and ‘neutral’. It’s called consciousness because it cognizes.”
“Wisdom and consciousness—are these things mixed or separate? And can we completely dissect them so as to describe the difference between them?” “Wisdom and consciousness—these things are mixed, not separate. And you can never completely dissect them so as to describe the difference between them. For you understand what you cognize, and you cognize what you understand. That’s why these things are mixed, not separate. And you can never completely dissect them so as to describe the difference between them.”
“Wisdom and consciousness—what is the difference between these things that are mixed, not separate?” “The difference between these things is that wisdom should be developed, while consciousness should be completely understood.”
https://suttacentral.net/mn-culayamakavagga
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Re: Does the Buddha ever define "mind" ?
Hello retro ,retrofuturist wrote: ↑Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:15 am Greetings James,
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Thus, just as in the Dhamma we are taught to see consciousness as something that arises and passes away, rather than "the consciousness", so too with that which may be mistakenly regarded as "the mind".SN 47.42 wrote:"From the origination of name-&-form is the origination of the mind. From the cessation of name-&-form is the cessation of the mind."
Metta,
Paul.
Just like eye consciousness is Not eyes itself .
(A dead person has eyes but No eye consciousness)
I am not talking about Consciousness as the Mind .
The question is about mind / mano ( the base ) which gives rise to mind consciousness .
Where is the "base" number six ?
What is it that called the "base" number six ?
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Re: Does the Buddha ever define "mind" ?
Sure , but everyone can know can touch can see what is the eye ear nose tongue body with certainty without any problems ! However , I am sure none of us can determine what and where is the mind base without doubt and hesitation ! We may guess only .
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