Manopubbangama wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:27 pmIn the meanwhile, I admit, I'd like to know why I'm supposed to only quote suttas but when I do, it can be arbitrarily negated as "illigitimate."
The above does not seem to matter since I do not recall you quoting any suttas; plus my only objection was about speculations about what type of societies past Buddhas (from 40,000 BC) live in. OK, so lets post more suttas:
Householders, there are these four ways of living together. What four? A wretch lives together with a wretch; a wretch lives together with a female deva; a deva lives together with a wretch; a deva lives together with a female deva.
https://suttacentral.net/an4.53/en/bodhi
Householders, if both husband and wife wish to see one another not only in this present life but also in future lives, they should have the same faith, the same virtuous behavior, the same generosity, and the same wisdom. Then they will see one another not only in this present life but also in future lives.
https://suttacentral.net/an4.55/en/bodhi
The above appear to refer to men & women with both equal & unequal spiritual qualities. In other words, AN 4.53 does not appear to say when a wife is immoral the husband can physically beat her (as, for example, appears to be written in the Islamic Koran).
In summary, the suttas appear to say:
1. There can be murderous, gold-digging & domineering wives.
2. A woman's ideal is domination.
3. A woman does not want to share a husband with another woman.
4. Husband is to give wife authority in the home.
5. A (doomed) marriage may include an immoral wife.
6. A (doomed) marriage may include an immoral husband.
The husband is immoral,
miserly and abusive,
but his wife is virtuous,
charitable, generous.
She is a female deva living
with a wretched husband.
AN 4.53
Since AN 4.53 says a wife can be morally superior to a husband, Buddhism does not appear to be "patriarchal".
Manopubbangama wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:27 pm
No, doodoot, not at all.
Not even in the least bit.
Kindly offer sutta evidence that shows the Buddha was a trouble maker and overtly proactively acted to change other religions; where, similar to Jesus of Nazareth, the Buddha approached other religions,
uninvited, and caused trouble? Thanks
MN 95 wrote:
The ascetic Gotama... has this good reputation...
He teaches the efficacy of deeds and action. He doesn’t wish any harm upon the community of brahmins. …
Samaṇo khalu, bho, gotamo kammavādī kiriyavādī apāpapurekkhāro brahmaññāya pajāya … pe
https://suttacentral.net/mn95/en/sujato