I don't think so.It's blackmail.
Perhaps it is another way to fight.
You can fight fire with fire or with water.
But none work all the time.
It seems that the burning monk aroused the passions of many and it seems likely that it was intended to do so.
chownah"Gotami, the qualities of which you may know, 'These qualities lead to passion, not to dispassion; to being fettered, not to being unfettered; to accumulating, not to shedding; to self-aggrandizement, not to modesty; to discontent, not to contentment; to entanglement, not to seclusion; to laziness, not to aroused persistence; to being burdensome, not to being unburdensome': You may categorically hold, 'This is not the Dhamma, this is not the Vinaya, this is not the Teacher's instruction.'
One could argue that being dispassionate about ones own life and ending it to protect those who are unable to resist persecution and to make a statement recognizable to people outside of the faith could have merit.
You could argue that. It would be based on western, modern political conceptualizations of justice, protest, and resistance rather than having a basis in the teachings. Case in point, the link you gave was to a site called western buddhism.
Oh, now CNN also giving "jhaana certs"!justindesilva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:53 amPlease note that since 1963 upto now the act of burning himself to death by Tich van duc is internationally known to be an act of self mortification and heroic being patriotic. It was so published even by CNN and other media. What made this act unique is that while burning he sat in lotus position still and steady and did not move until he was burnt out. The media suggested it was a dyana.
Please note that I was careful in bringing this to the notice of participants of this forum. I as a school going high school student (at the time) followed this as of interest in buddhism .
The reason why I questioned my own argument further down in my post. I agree that there is a high likelihood that this suicide was unskillful.dharmacorps wrote: ↑Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:46 pmYou could argue that. It would be based on western, modern political conceptualizations of justice, protest, and resistance rather than having a basis in the teachings. Case in point, the link you gave was to a site called western buddhism.
And "the Path" would have only one factor "Right Gun."
chownahPrecedents and influence
[*]Despite the shock of the Western public, the practice of Vietnamese monks self-immolating was not unprecedented. Instances of self-immolations in Vietnam had been recorded for centuries, usually carried out to honor Gautama Buddha. The most recently recorded case had been in North Vietnam in 1950. The French colonial authorities had tried to eradicate the practice after their conquest of Vietnam in the nineteenth century, but had not been totally successful. They did manage to prevent one monk from setting fire to himself in Huế in the 1920s, but he managed to starve himself to death instead. During the 1920s and 1930s, Saigon newspapers reported multiple instances of self-immolations by monks in a matter-of-fact style. The practice had also been seen in the Chinese city of Harbin in 1948 when a monk seated down in the lotus position on a pile of sawdust and soybean oil and set fire to himself in protest against the treatment of Buddhism by the communists of Mao Zedong. His heart remained intact, as did that of Đức.
statue in a small park
The Venerable Thich Quảng Đức Monument at the intersection where Quảng Đức performed his self-immolation, Phan Đình Phùng (now Nguyễn Đình Chiểu) Street and Lê Văn Duyệt (now Cach Mạng Thang Tam) Street (10.775159°N 106.686864°E)
After Đức, five more Buddhist monks self-immolated up until late October 1963 as the Buddhist protests in Vietnam escalated. On 1 November, the Army of the Republic of Vietnam overthrew Diệm in a coup. Diệm and Nhu were assassinated the next day. Monks have followed Đức's example since for other reasons.
Đức's actions were copied by United States citizens in protests against the Vietnam War:
Norman Morrison, a 31-year-old Quaker pacifist, poured kerosene over himself and set himself alight below the third-floor window of Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara at the Pentagon on 2 November 1965.
Alice Herz, an 82-year-old woman, also burned herself that year in Detroit, Michigan.
Roger Allen LaPorte self-immolated outside the United Nations building in New York City on 9 November 1965.
Florence Beaumont burned herself to death outside the Federal Building in Los Angeles on 15 October 1967.
George Winne, Jr., a student, self-immolated on 10 May 1970 on the campus of the University of California, San Diego and died the following day.
In an apparently non-political case of imitation of Quảng Đức, the young son of an American officer based at the U.S. Embassy in Saigon doused himself with gasoline and set himself on fire. He was seriously burned before the fire was extinguished and later could only offer the explanation that "I wanted to see what it was like."