SamKR wrote: ↑Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:12 amCorrect, in my understanding, Rupa is not about physicality as understood in modern era.
Sure. This is your understanding, as was posted twice. But how is your understanding related to Buddhism?
I think it is related.
DooDoot wrote:
SamKR wrote: ↑Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:12 amrupa is the appearance itself or form or shape.
So when people have major surgery such as coronary bi-passes or hysterectomy due to cancer, this is just "appearance"?
Yes! It's an appearance. I would remove the word "just" though.
DooDoot wrote:
SamKR wrote: ↑Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:12 amBut due to ignorance it appears to appear out of some 'real' object and to some 'real' subject/person - both subject and object arise as just concepts.
This sounds like confusing 'rupa khandha' with 'sankara khandha'. To impute pesononhood onto rupa appears to be 'sankhara' rather than 'rupa'.
Mybe I was not clear in that sentence. Of course, to impute personhood onto rupa is not 'rupa' itself but 'sankhara' based on 'avijja'.
SamKR wrote: ↑Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:14 am Of course, to impute personhood onto rupa is not 'rupa' itself but 'sankhara' based on 'avijja'.
There is always an official executioner. If you try to take his place, It is like trying to be a master carpenter and cutting wood. If you try to cut wood like a master carpenter, you will only hurt your hand.
Srilankaputra wrote: ↑Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:11 pmwhat ever is material and clung to and delighted in as me or mine that is rupa upadana Khanda.
Possibly. But is it rupa khandha?
At Savatthi. “Bhikkhus, I will teach you the five aggregates (pañca khandhe) and the five aggregates subject to clinging (pañcupādānakkhandhe). Listen to that….
And what, bhikkhus, are the five aggregates? Whatever kind of form there is, whether past, future or present, internal or external, gross or subtle, inferior or superior, far or near: this is called the form aggregate....
And what, bhikkhus, are the five aggregates subject to clinging? Whatever kind of form there is, whether past, future or present … far or near, that is tainted, that can be clung to: this is called the form aggregate subject to clinging.
There is always an official executioner. If you try to take his place, It is like trying to be a master carpenter and cutting wood. If you try to cut wood like a master carpenter, you will only hurt your hand.
