How does one observe Anatta ?

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How does one observe Anatta ?

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Greetings ,

The method of Anatta observing
or contemplation is from which sutta ?
And is it possible to observe Anatta directly ,
says one look at the body or any part and
find out the characteristic ?
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by seeing impermanence

… of self
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The way I understand you have to observe all three (Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta) to realise Anatta.
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”
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you should try to see inconstancy… constantly

rather than a sudden realization
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James Tan wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 3:12 am Greetings ,

The method of Anatta observing
or contemplation is from which sutta ?
And is it possible to observe Anatta directly ,
says one look at the body or any part and
find out the characteristic ?
There is no such 'thing' as anatta. It is not an object so you don't observe it. It is a quality that is present when you stop thinking about everything.
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is a quality that is present when you stop thinking about everything.
The way I understand this is second Jhana. (absence of Vitakka and Vicara)
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cappuccino wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 4:46 am you should try to see inconstancy… constantly

rather than a sudden realization
So you can't watch anatta directly ?
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SarathW wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 4:41 am The way I understand you have to observe all three (Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta) to realise Anatta.
You have been watching impermanent and suffering in your daily life but you still can't
get enlighten yet ?
Anatta , how to look at it is my question ?
Could you describe how ?
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James Tan wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 5:07 am
cappuccino wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 4:46 am you should try to see inconstancy… constantly

rather than a sudden realization
So you can't watch anatta directly ?
You are busy thinking and trying to capture something that is not possible with your thoughts.
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James Tan wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 5:07 am
cappuccino wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 4:46 am you should try to see inconstancy… constantly

rather than a sudden realization
So you can't watch anatta directly ?
you can try
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Saengnapha wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 5:10 am
James Tan wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 5:07 am
cappuccino wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 4:46 am you should try to see inconstancy… constantly

rather than a sudden realization
So you can't watch anatta directly ?
You are busy thinking and trying to capture something that is not possible with your thoughts.
You are missing my question , the Question is ,
is it possible to observe Anatta ?

Yes or no, if yes how ?
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cappuccino wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 5:13 am
James Tan wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 5:07 am
cappuccino wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 4:46 am you should try to see inconstancy… constantly

rather than a sudden realization
So you can't watch anatta directly ?
you can try
How ?
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James Tan wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 5:15 am
cappuccino wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 5:13 am
James Tan wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 5:07 am

So you can't watch anatta directly ?
you can try
How ?
My answer was rhetorical. Your thinking is driving you to distraction. There is no 'how'. Period. If that question pops up, you are already misguided.
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James Tan wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 5:15 am
cappuccino wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 5:13 am
James Tan wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 5:07 am

So you can't watch anatta directly ?
you can try
How ?
look for self, or examine self
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Saengnapha wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 5:17 am
James Tan wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 5:15 am
cappuccino wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 5:13 am

you can try
How ?
My answer was rhetorical. Your thinking is driving you to distraction. There is no 'how'. Period. If that question pops up, you are already misguided.
SN22.149
Observing not self

At Sāvatthī. “Mendicants, when someone from a good family has gone forth out of faith, this is what’s in line with the teachings. They should live observing not-self in form, feeling, perception, choices, and consciousness. … They’re freed from suffering, I say.”

So, your understanding is different .
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