Compassion for Women

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Re: Compassion for Women

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User1249x wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 9:56 am apparently you dont know what "if" means
I know what "if" means but the following rigid assertions imputed upon the discussion seem to erase the "if":

* the Tathagatas are free from delusion, hatred and conceit. There can be no mysogyny...

* Tathagata is beyond reproach

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DooDoot wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 3:46 am
User1249x wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 7:26 pmThe Tathagatas are free from delusion, hatred and conceit. There can be no mysogyny... If the Tathagata did impose different rules there is most certainly a good reason for it.... I am not sure about those parajika rules but the Tathagata is beyond reproach. I prefer not speculating because i don't know enough about the origination of those rules, the differences between the sexes and how exactly existence of the Nun Sangha affects the Dispensation.
The above contains a contradiction, in claiming the Tathagata made the rules but you do not about the origin of the rules.
apparently you dont know what "if" means,
there i outlined it for people who struggle with reading
i understand that if you have trouble with these things the Sutta Pitaka might pose the evident difficulties.
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:focus: Let go. :meditate: Let go & don't cling for stream-entry. :twothumbsup:
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DooDoot wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 10:20 am :focus: Let go. :meditate: Let go & don't cling for stream-entry. :twothumbsup:
ye good luck with that
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User1249x wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 10:32 amye good luck with that
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Wizard in the Forest wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 2:50 am @Binocular
I read every post in a thread I'm in. Why do you think otherwise?
Because it's clear from your comments that you don't. I'm sick of having to copy-paste the same thing several times before you actually read it, even though you've already replied to it.
Also don't try and belittle my gender.

Are you suggesting it is feminine to be inattentive or vice versa?
This is so typical of many women and effeminate men.
Weird then, to demand special compassion for women. So that then they can continue doing what they've been doing?
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But I read everything you said, I just don't always think what you said requires a challenge, a response or a counter. It's not hard to quietly assent to what has been said, and even in some cases I point out that yes, you bring up fair points about how women sometimes victimize other women and victimize themselves.

What I don't agree with is that they're singularly responsible for all their circumstances. I don't think anyone in their right mind thinks Malala for example deserved to be shot for trying to suggest that girls get a chance to go to schools.

And as for the idea that Western problems are more complicated and that their problems require more attention, I don't really agree with that. Here in the west it is not exactly a secret that there are issues, but there is sympathy and drive for repairing those problems whereas there are many places where society is indeed violent and downright hostile to women.

We could definitely say that there is still a lot of hostile behavior that needs fixing here in the west but my concern for women outside of the west where attitudes are far more hostile and where people seem to show less concern or consider them to be a non issue highlights how dismissive people are of suffering. I find this mentality disturbing. And I find the fact that I repeatedly have to remind people of this disturbing too.
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