No objections to Livelihood by Archery?

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Re: No objections to Livelihood by Archery?

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idk what that means
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Re: No objections to Livelihood by Archery?

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Dhammarakkhito wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 7:43 pm keeping the five precepts is basic practice for any upasaka
Precepts are training rules that one takes on voluntarily. It is refuge that makes one a upasaka:
“In what way, Bhante, is one a lay follower?”

“When, Mahānāma, one has gone for refuge to the Buddha, the Dhamma, and the Saṅgha, in that way one is a lay follower.”

“In what way, Bhante, is a lay follower virtuous?”

“When, Mahānāma, a lay follower abstains from the destruction of life, from taking what is not given, from sexual misconduct, from false speech, and from liquor, wine, and intoxicants, the basis for heedlessness, in that way a lay follower is virtuous.”
(https://suttacentral.net/en/an8.25)
Is it better to be a virtuous buddhist than not? Definitely. But a lot of good can also be done taking only refuge and being generous, thus excluding nobody, not even butchers, hunters, archers etc. from the path.
Dry up what pertains to the past,
do not take up anything to come later.
If you will not grasp in the middle,
you will live at peace.
—Snp.5.11,v.1099 (tr. Ven. Bhikkhu Bodhi)

Whatever is will be was. —Ven. Ñānamoli, A Thinkers Notebook, §221
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Re: No objections to Livelihood by Archery?

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Dhammarakkhito wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 9:00 pmidk what that means
binocular wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 8:39 pm
Dhammarakkhito wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 7:43 pmkeeping the five precepts is basic practice for any upasaka
Congratulations, then, you've just made Buddhism a minor religious movement.
:jawdrop:
The number of people in traditionally Buddhist countries who keep the five precepts is possibly quite small. By your standards then, they're not upasakas, and possibly don't count as "true Buddhists".
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Re: No objections to Livelihood by Archery?

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pilgrim wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 2:04 am "Herein, Vyagghapajja, by whatsoever activity a householder earns his living, whether by farming, by trading, by rearing cattle, by archery, by service under the king, or by any other kind of craft — at that he becomes skillful and is not lazy. He is endowed with the power of discernment as to the proper ways and means; he is able to carry out and allocate (duties). This is called the accomplishment of persistent effort." ~ Dighajanu (Vyagghapajja) Sutta, AN8.54

How does one make a livelihood from archery in compliance with Right Livelihood?
Anguttara Nikaya 5.177
"Monks, a lay follower should not engage in five types of business. Which five? Business in weapons, business in human beings, business in meat, business in intoxicants, and business in poison.

"These are the five types of business that a lay follower should not engage in."'

So, anything outside of these five restrictions, you can safely use archery to make a living.
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BasementBuddhist wrote: Thu May 10, 2018 12:57 am
pilgrim wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 2:04 am "Herein, Vyagghapajja, by whatsoever activity a householder earns his living, whether by farming, by trading, by rearing cattle, by archery, by service under the king, or by any other kind of craft — at that he becomes skillful and is not lazy. He is endowed with the power of discernment as to the proper ways and means; he is able to carry out and allocate (duties). This is called the accomplishment of persistent effort." ~ Dighajanu (Vyagghapajja) Sutta, AN8.54

How does one make a livelihood from archery in compliance with Right Livelihood?
Anguttara Nikaya 5.177
"Monks, a lay follower should not engage in five types of business. Which five? Business in weapons, business in human beings, business in meat, business in intoxicants, and business in poison.

"These are the five types of business that a lay follower should not engage in."'

So, anything outside of these five restrictions, you can safely use archery to make a living.

As a buddhist the five example is a must to follow , but , outside the five still have some probably Non dhammic business or jobs. Example , as a police officer or army (not against business in weapons) , but , probably when you execute your duty you shoot a person , your action would be against the five precepts !
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