Greed is an antidote to poverty .

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James Tan wrote: Sun May 06, 2018 11:30 pm No problem , not to worry .
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Nothing to worry to begin with :quote:
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santa100 wrote: Sun May 06, 2018 11:32 pm
James Tan wrote: Sun May 06, 2018 11:30 pm No problem , not to worry .
:quote:
Nothing to worry to begin with :quote:
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Why cant you be rich without been greedy?
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”
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SarathW wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 3:17 am Why cant you be rich without been greedy?
Perhaps you can give it a try!
Who's know !
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James Tan wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 4:08 am
SarathW wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 3:17 am Why cant you be rich without been greedy?
Perhaps you can give it a try!
Who's know !
Unless born to a rich family , I wish to learn about anybody who had accumulated wealth , not been greedy.
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In closing: since when has the Dhamma been about worldly gains?

NEVER!

Over and out!
ye dhammā hetuppabhavā tesaṁ hetuṁ tathāgato āha,
tesaṃca yo nirodho - evaṁvādī mahāsamaṇo.

Of those phenomena which arise from causes:
Those causes have been taught by the Tathāgata,
And their cessation too - thus proclaims the Great Ascetic.
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I wish to learn about anybody who had accumulated wealth , not been greedy.
Say you write a cool app for fun and got viral.
One million people bought it for $1.00 each.
Now you are a millionaire.
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”
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SarathW wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 7:32 am
I wish to learn about anybody who had accumulated wealth , not been greedy.
Say you write a cool app for fun and got viral.
One million people bought it for $1.00 each.
Now you are a millionaire.
This is only a suggestion. But not a true practical past example.
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SarathW wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 7:32 am
I wish to learn about anybody who had accumulated wealth , not been greedy.
Say you write a cool app for fun and got viral.
One million people bought it for $1.00 each.
Now you are a millionaire.
By luck is a different matter , but by actual effort and great determination (out of desire) that is totally different . I have seen my friend start from scratch and continuously wanting to accumulate more and more money , eventually , in the course of twenty years or thirty years he managed to have acquired at least few millions . Without the strong desire and persistent , I see very few can achieve this amount of money .
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Without the strong desire and persistent , I see very few can achieve this amount of money .
Nothing wrong creating wealth.
That creates a lot of jobs and services needed by people.
What matters is how you use your hard earn wealth.
As I said before what matters is whether it is right livelihood.
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SarathW wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 8:56 am
Without the strong desire and persistent , I see very few can achieve this amount of money .
Nothing wrong creating wealth.
That creates a lot of jobs and services needed by people.
What matters is how you use your hard earn wealth.
As I said before what matters is whether it is right livelihood.
Reminder , (Why cant you be rich without been greedy ?).

You are asking the question whether one can acquire wealth without having greed !!!
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SarathW wrote: Sun May 06, 2018 11:47 am
binocular wrote: Sun May 06, 2018 7:39 amOh, there's plenty of poverty in Japan. They're just better at concealing it than many other countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_Japan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_Japan
I have been to Japan at least three times and travel to many places.
Never seen a beggar or a homeless person.
Like I said, the Japanese are quite good at concealing their poor.
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James Tan wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 9:38 amYou are asking the question whether one can acquire wealth without having greed !!!
One can inherit wealth. That doesn't necessarily involve greed.
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binocular wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 7:59 pm
James Tan wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 9:38 amYou are asking the question whether one can acquire wealth without having greed !!!
One can inherit wealth. That doesn't necessarily involve greed.
I imagine the OP is referring to those who are self-made wealthy.

In regard to greed and wealth, it depends on how one defines greed. One could take a very broad definition and say that even getting out of bed and making some breakfast is greedy. It is greed for food, greed for survival, greed for existing and living. It is clear the Buddha did not take that broad of a definition as he himself ate food and ate for sustenance.

The Buddha also accepted generous donation offers from bankers, merchants, and other business men and women without condemning their livelihoods.

Probably the cut-off point should be when ambition becomes too attached and one becomes greedy in a way that is harmful to oneself and others. We all know how greed can be harmful to others, but it can also be harmful to oneself. For example, a business charges too much for his products; customers go elsewhere and the businessman goes bankrupt.
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[Like I said, the Japanese are quite good at concealing their poor./quote]

How do they do it?
Just a matter of interest.
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