thepea wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:28 am
pinit29 wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:46 am
You have the wrong understading about asubha meditation (meditating on corpse). The purpose of this meditation is to let your jitta see the truth about human body that it is not neat, it is not beautiful as it looks. If we peel out our skins, you will see all kind of ugly and nasty stuffs. By doing asubha meditating, you citta will understand little by little that
1. The one of the 4 noble truth (dukka) is real. Everybody has to face it someday.
2. The fact that our bodies are not beautiful.
3. Tilakkhana (3 signs of being:anicca, dukka, and anattala) is absolute.
When your citta sees this, you will gain a wisdom and such, your citta will let go of Atta (self) little by little. And of couse, once your citta starts letting Atta(self), your citta will also let go of Tanha (carving) and Kilesa (impurities).
Corpse meditation is not Bhavana-maya maya Panna it wisdom based from a combination of listening and observing others and thinking on this. It is not direct wisdom of experience.
Perhaps this is why monks took up the knife the we’re trying to see if this truth was within them also. Cutting open their bodies?
Even this is not Bhavana-maya Panna it cannot break the bonds to liberation.
The bond is broken from sensation(Vedana) and sankhara(reaction) or non reaction. The non reaction is which cuts the bond and liberates.
Still a misunderstanding there. How could you say that monks commited suicide because of asubha mediation. Were you there witnessing what's going on?
Anyway, I am not arguing that there was not such the case that some monks comitted suicide. What I heard is that some of those monks who comitted suicide, believed that they have attained nirvana and they felt like there is no attachment to this world, no point of continuing living. However, this is wrong doing. If only they have sammasankappa (right thought), sammaditthi (right understanding, right mind), sammasati (right mindful), and sammasamadhi (right concentration), they wouldn't have done that.
In asubha medition, you have to consider the death bodies with sammasankappa (right thought) and sammaditthi (right understanding, right mind).
How??? You have to consider that our bodies consists of non-beautiful things. Under our skins consist of ugly and nasty stuffs. Do we know this? Yes, we do. But does your citta know this? No, not actually. So, the purpose of doing asubha meditating is to teach your citta this, to let your citta learn. And of course, while you are considering the death body, you have to take the Tilakkhana (3 signs of being:anicca, dukka, and anattala) into consideration as well.
Anicca: our bodies keeps aging and decaying all the time. From baby to grown up. From grown up to elder. From elder to death. And some unfortunate one dies even before getting old. And once we dies, the bodies still keeps decaying until nothing left.
Dukka: if we are so attaching with these bodies, trying not look old or get old while in fact we cannot avoid it, it will only lead us Dukka(pain and suffering).
Anattala: Everthing including our bodies is actually not ours. Because if it is really ours, then we should be able to control it. But can we stop our bodies from aging, from decaying? NO...
If you are willing to open up, you will see that..
With sammasankappa (right thought) and sammaditthi (right understanding, right mind), your citta will see Tilakkhana (3 signs of being:anicca, dukka, and anattal).
And with Tilakhana, your citta will have less and less Atta (self or ego) and then you citta will have less Tanha(carving). Once you have less Tanha, then of course you will have less kilesa(impurities: Dosa (hatred), Moha (delusion), and Lobha (greed))
And once your citta can see all things as
Tilakkhana (3 signs of being:anicca, dukka, and anattal), you will attain nirvana.