Why does a comedian go to hell or animal womb?

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Re: Why does a comedian go to hell or animal womb?

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Re: Why does a comedian go to hell or animal womb?

Post by rightviewftw » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:46 am

thepea wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:58 am
That guy made one on "How to become a Buddhist" too, not going to post the vid but i think he went too far and it is not funny.
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Re: Why does a comedian go to hell or animal womb?

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Really funny, but not to funny, the middle way of funny.

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Re: Why does a comedian go to hell or animal womb?

Post by rightviewftw » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:44 am

thepea wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:37 am


Really funny, but not to funny, the middle way of funny.
at least it went into the appropriate thread
he should make another apology video
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Parallel Dhammapada Reading
Chinese to Eng Dhp
"The statements; 'With the remainderless stopping & fading of the six contact-media is it the case that there is anything else?' '.. is it the case that there is not anything else .. is it the case that there both is & is not anything else .. is it the case that there neither is nor is not anything else?' objectify non-objectification. However far the six contact-media go, that is how far objectification goes."

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Re: Why does a comedian go to hell or animal womb?

Post by denise » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:26 pm

"A madman and an arahant both smile, but the arahant knows why while the madman doesn't" Ajahn Chah :bow:

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Re: Why does a comedian go to hell or animal womb?

Post by 2600htz » Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:07 pm

Hello:

It might be that the Buddha was talking about the fate of an actor dying during a performance.
That would make much more sense, since virtually everyone has done some acting in school, even playing a tree :).

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Re: Why does a comedian go to hell or animal womb?

Post by cappuccino » Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:53 pm

having made others intoxicated & heedless … is reborn in hell

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Re: Why does a comedian go to hell or animal womb?

Post by Dhammarakkhito » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:54 pm

the actor/comedian/performer not only encourages unskillful mindstates but he holds wrong view, believing that what he is doing will lead to a heavenly world when it is the opposite. he goes to 'hell of laughter' for unwholesome conduct and to hell or animal womb for holding onto wrong view, whether or not he serves consecutive terms or goes to a lower hell idk.
frankly, very very few are reborn as humans, so few:

Then the Blessed One, picking up a little bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monks, "What do you think, monks? Which is greater: the little bit of dust I have picked up with the tip of my fingernail, or the great earth?"

"The great earth is far greater, lord. The little bit of dust the Blessed One has picked up with the tip of his fingernail is next to nothing. It doesn't even count. It's no comparison. It's not even a fraction, this little bit of dust the Blessed One has picked up with the tip of his fingernail, when compared with the great earth.

"In the same way, monks, few are the beings reborn among human beings. Far more are those reborn elsewhere. Thus you should train yourselves: 'We will live heedfully.' That's how you should train yourselves."

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"Just as a firebrand from a funeral pyre — burning at both ends, covered with excrement in the middle — is used as fuel neither in a village nor in the wilderness: I tell you that this is a simile for the individual who practices neither for his/her own benefit nor for that of others. The individual who practices for the benefit of others but not for his/her own is the higher & more refined of these two. The individual who practices for his/her own benefit but not for that of others is the highest & most refined of these three. The individual who practices for his/her own benefit and for that of others is, of these four, the foremost, the chief, the most outstanding, the highest, & supreme. Just as from a cow comes milk; from milk, curds; from curds, butter; from butter, ghee; from ghee, the skimmings of ghee; and of these, the skimmings of ghee are reckoned the foremost — in the same way, of these four, the individual who practices for his/her own benefit and for that of others is the foremost, the chief, the most outstanding, the highest, & supreme.

"These are the four types of individuals to be found existing in the world."

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Re: Why does a comedian go to hell or animal womb?

Post by Dhammarakkhito » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:03 pm

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Bhikkhus! A comedian making non-PC jokes produces much outrage in the world. Through his non-PC jokes, he causes other people to get angry and upset. In this life, villagers might attack him with torches and forks, or in a best case they will boycott and shut down his speeches. After the break-up of the body, he is reborn in hell or the animal womb. Thus, bhikkhus, a comedian making non-PC jokes produces much demerit for himself and he experiences suffering both in this life and the next one.
i am going to offer you a three-fold admonishment, and i hope you will accept it as being from one faithful practitioner to another.

(7) “Idle chatter, repeatedly pursued, developed, and cultivated, is conducive to hell, to the animal realm, and to the sphere of afflicted spirits; for one reborn as a human being idle chatter at minimum conduces to others distrusting one’s words.
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"And to whom, worthless man, do you understand me to have taught the Dhamma like that? [...] But you, through your own poor grasp, not only slander us but also dig yourself up [by the root] and produce much demerit for yourself. That will lead to your long-term harm & suffering."
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"In the same way, Rahula, when anyone feels no shame in telling a deliberate lie, there is no evil, I tell you, he will not do. Thus, Rahula, you should train yourself, 'I will not tell a deliberate lie even in jest.'
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i hope the moderators will allow this to remain so that benefit can be reaped from it and out of faith i am not a hostile party
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Re: Why does a comedian go to hell or animal womb?

Post by Mr Man » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:08 pm

So performers are responsible for the intoxicated & heedless mind states of others?

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Re: Why does a comedian go to hell or animal womb?

Post by SDC » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:31 pm

Dhammarakkhito wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:03 pm
i hope the moderators will allow this to remain so that benefit can be reaped from it and out of faith i am not a hostile party
Just as long as you understand that Circle5 was well within the bounds of the terms of service when he made the joke. The staff currently has no plans to use the suttas to enforce conduct on the forum. Fair enough?

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Re: Why does a comedian go to hell or animal womb?

Post by Dhammarakkhito » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:35 pm

disagreeable but fair
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Re: Why does a comedian go to hell or animal womb?

Post by SDC » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:36 pm

thank you

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Re: Why does a comedian go to hell or animal womb?

Post by Dhammarakkhito » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:37 pm

Mr Man wrote:
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So performers are responsible for the intoxicated & heedless mind states of others?
responsibility is twofold. i am responsible for reacting in anger to someone who insults me, and the someone is responsible for insulting me and inciting my anger. i think the firebrand sutta i posted in purple speaks well to that
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Re: Why does a comedian go to hell or animal womb?

Post by Dhammarakkhito » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:45 pm

like when you give a gift, there has to be a giver and a receiver in order to complete the act of giving. the recipient has to accept the gift
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