Stream Entry

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chownah
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Re: Stream Entry

Post by chownah » Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:42 am

DooDoot wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:02 am
Saengnapha wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:58 am
When I quote a sutta that is pertinent to me
A questionable translation is not a "sutta". It seems you were only quoting your personal ideas & interpretation rather than a sutta.
Saengnapha wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:58 am
why would I need 'your' interpretation of what the sutta means?
I do not recall offering any interpretation. I merely posted some unambiguous suttas that appear to clearly show the meaning of the word "mannati".
Other people's understanding of the suttas is just a personal idea and interpretation....
BUT....your understanding of the suttas is unambiguous and clear.......

delusion,
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Re: Stream Entry

Post by bodom » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:15 am

jasday wrote: How do I experience stream entry?

I want to know what it will take to attain stream entry. I enjoy the increasing benefits of happiness the path brings in this life, but I would be very disappointed to find that I fall backwards either in this life or after this life.
Please help.
I'm am very surprised to see all of these answers given but none that really directly answers your question.

The Buddha said that there are four factors for gaining Stream Entry:

1. Association with people of integrity is a factor for stream-entry.

2. Listening to the true Dhamma is a factor for stream-entry.

3. Appropriate attention is a factor for stream-entry.

4. Practice in accordance with the Dhamma is a factor for stream-entry.

— SN 55.5

How will I know when I've experienced stream entry?
There are also four qualities one will be endowed with after reaching stream entry:

1. "There is the case where the disciple of the noble ones is endowed with unwavering confidence in the Awakened One.

2. ...unwavering confidence in the Dhamma...

3. ...unwavering confidence in the Sangha...

4. He/she is endowed with virtues that are appealing to the noble ones: untorn, unbroken, unspotted, unsplattered, liberating, praised by the wise, untarnished, leading to concentration."

— AN 10.92


I highly recommend the study guide Into the Stream by Thanissaro Bhikkhu who goes into detail about about these lists above.

https://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/stu ... tream.html

:namaste:
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With no struggling, no thinking,
the mind, still,
will see cause and effect
vanishing in the Void.
Attached to nothing, letting go:
Know that this is the way
to allay all stress.

- Upasika Kee Nanayan

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Re: Stream Entry

Post by rightviewftw » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:33 am

bodom wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:15 am
jasday wrote: How do I experience stream entry?

I want to know what it will take to attain stream entry. I enjoy the increasing benefits of happiness the path brings in this life, but I would be very disappointed to find that I fall backwards either in this life or after this life.
Please help.
I'm am very surprised to see all of these answers given but none that really directly answers your question.

The Buddha said that there are four factors for gaining Stream Entry:

1. Association with people of integrity is a factor for stream-entry.

2. Listening to the true Dhamma is a factor for stream-entry.

3. Appropriate attention is a factor for stream-entry.

4. Practice in accordance with the Dhamma is a factor for stream-entry.

— SN 55.5
i wanted to post it but figured it was not essential because we fulfilled the 1, 2 by answering and 3rd is good instruction for Sati, which i did not give because it is not easy in a few words, i told him to watch the videos and book and 4th he has to do himself.

Also lazy probably did not want to look for it. How i rationalized it, since you were surprised.
:anjali:

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