Do the things i do in this life affect my family in my past lives?

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Do the things i do in this life affect my family in my past lives?

Post by Strive4Karuna » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:37 am

The greatest thing we can do for our family and those who have helped in this life is attain arahantship. They will get incredible merit, thinking about the shelter, meals and all the luxuries they have provided.

However, i want to know whether the things i do in this lifetime will affect my parents, family, all the people who have done good for me in the past.

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Re: Do the things i do in this life affect my family in my past lives?

Post by Polar Bear » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:58 am

I think your parents in this life only get the merit of giving to an arahant if they give to you after you've become an arahant. According to my understanding (which could be mistaken) of the suttas on kamma, I don't think there are any retroactive kammic updates possible. You can sort of lessen or increase the effects of past kamma, but only by increasing/decreasing your current wholesome/unwholesome mind states. Is there a sutta you know of that suggests that parents gain merit inevitably or purely from the fact the child they raised became an arahant?

:anjali:
"I don't envision a single thing that, when developed & cultivated, leads to such great benefit as the mind. The mind, when developed & cultivated, leads to great benefit."

"I don't envision a single thing that, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about such suffering & stress as the mind. The mind, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about suffering & stress."

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Re: Do the things i do in this life affect my family in my past lives?

Post by Strive4Karuna » Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:53 pm

polarbear101 wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:58 am
I think your parents in this life only get the merit of giving to an arahant if they give to you after you've become an arahant. According to my understanding (which could be mistaken) of the suttas on kamma, I don't think there are any retroactive kammic updates possible. You can sort of lessen or increase the effects of past kamma, but only by increasing/decreasing your current wholesome/unwholesome mind states. Is there a sutta you know of that suggests that parents gain merit inevitably or purely from the fact the child they raised became an arahant?

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Polarbear, i apologize cannot recall where i read this and i may be mistaken, however if my memory serves me right the showing of gratitude to ones parents was not reserved only to those who have attained nibbana, rather it suggested that there was no greater use of ones time then one who had become an arahant.

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Re: Do the things i do in this life affect my family in my past lives?

Post by bodom » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:20 pm

There are two people in this world you can never can never really repay and that is your parents. The best you can do for them is to arouse and establish in them conviction, virtue, generosity and discernment.
"I tell you, monks, there are two people who are not easy to repay. Which two? Your mother & father. Even if you were to carry your mother on one shoulder & your father on the other shoulder for 100 years, and were to look after them by anointing, massaging, bathing, & rubbing their limbs, and they were to defecate & urinate right there [on your shoulders], you would not in that way pay or repay your parents. If you were to establish your mother & father in absolute sovereignty over this great earth, abounding in the seven treasures, you would not in that way pay or repay your parents. Why is that? Mother & father do much for their children. They care for them, they nourish them, they introduce them to this world. But anyone who rouses his unbelieving mother & father, settles & establishes them in conviction; rouses his unvirtuous mother & father, settles & establishes them in virtue; rouses his stingy mother & father, settles & establishes them in generosity; rouses his foolish mother & father, settles & establishes them in discernment: To this extent one pays & repays one's mother & father."
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .than.html

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To attain the goal is to know and let go.

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Attached to nothing, letting go:
Know that this is the way
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Re: Do the things i do in this life affect my family in my past lives?

Post by LG2V » Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:55 pm

If you become proficient in meditation, you'll be able to help your loved ones in a multitude of unexpected ways. :smile:
Here are some excellent sites for giving free Dana (Click-Based Donation):
http://freerice.comhttp://greatergood.com/www.ripple.orgwww.thenonprofits.com

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Re: Do the things i do in this life affect my family in my past lives?

Post by Strive4Karuna » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:09 am

bodom wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:20 pm
There are two people in this world you can never can never really repay and that is your parents. The best you can do for them is to arouse and establish in them conviction, virtue, generosity and discernment.
"I tell you, monks, there are two people who are not easy to repay. Which two? Your mother & father. Even if you were to carry your mother on one shoulder & your father on the other shoulder for 100 years, and were to look after them by anointing, massaging, bathing, & rubbing their limbs, and they were to defecate & urinate right there [on your shoulders], you would not in that way pay or repay your parents. If you were to establish your mother & father in absolute sovereignty over this great earth, abounding in the seven treasures, you would not in that way pay or repay your parents. Why is that? Mother & father do much for their children. They care for them, they nourish them, they introduce them to this world. But anyone who rouses his unbelieving mother & father, settles & establishes them in conviction; rouses his unvirtuous mother & father, settles & establishes them in virtue; rouses his stingy mother & father, settles & establishes them in generosity; rouses his foolish mother & father, settles & establishes them in discernment: To this extent one pays & repays one's mother & father."
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .than.html

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bodom, thank you for the reply.

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Re: Do the things i do in this life affect my family in my past lives?

Post by Strive4Karuna » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:11 am

LG2V wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:55 pm
If you become proficient in meditation, you'll be able to help your loved ones in a multitude of unexpected ways. :smile:
LG2V, your post aroused a feeling in me to become better so I can be a better help to my parents. Regards.

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