Meaning of the first verse of Siri­maṇḍat­thera­gāthā (6.13)

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Meaning of the first verse of Siri­maṇḍat­thera­gāthā (6.13)

Post by dylanj » Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:10 am

The rain saturates things that are covered up;
It doesn’t saturate things that are open.
Therefore you should open up a covered thing,
So the rain will not saturate it.

The world is crushed by death,
Surrounded by old age,
Struck by the dart of craving,
And ever obscured by desire.

The world is crushed by death,
Caged by old age,
Beaten constantly, without respite,
Like a thief being flogged.

Three things are coming, like a wall of flame:
Death, disease, and old age.
No power can stand before them,
And there is no speed to flee.

Don’t waste your day,
A little or a lot.
Every night that passes
Shortens your life by that much.

Walking or standing,
Sitting or lying down:
Your final night draws near.
You have no time to be heedless.
This is just a fantastic text, first of all, but I don't get the first verse, it seems out of place. Besides the fact that I would think rain only saturates open things & not closed things, I'm not sure what is meant to be represented here.
susukhaṃ vata nibbānaṃ,
sammā­sambud­dha­desitaṃ;
asokaṃ virajaṃ khemaṃ,
yattha dukkhaṃ nirujjhatī


Oh! extinction is so very blissful,
As taught by the One Rightly Self-Awakened:
Sorrowless, stainless, secure;
Where suffering all ceases


etaṁ santaṁ etaṁ panītaṁ yadidaṁ sabbasaṅkhārasamatho sabbūpadhipaṭi nissaggo taṇhakkhayo virāgo nirodho nibbānaṁ

This is peaceful, this is excellent, that is: the stilling of all fabrications, the relinquishment of all attachments, the destruction of craving, detachment, cessation, extinction.

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Re: Meaning of the first verse of Siri­maṇḍat­thera­gāthā (6.13)

Post by cappuccino » Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:13 am

1 John 1:9

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Post by dylanj » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:24 am

cappuccino wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:13 am
1 John 1:9
:o :o :thanks:
susukhaṃ vata nibbānaṃ,
sammā­sambud­dha­desitaṃ;
asokaṃ virajaṃ khemaṃ,
yattha dukkhaṃ nirujjhatī


Oh! extinction is so very blissful,
As taught by the One Rightly Self-Awakened:
Sorrowless, stainless, secure;
Where suffering all ceases


etaṁ santaṁ etaṁ panītaṁ yadidaṁ sabbasaṅkhārasamatho sabbūpadhipaṭi nissaggo taṇhakkhayo virāgo nirodho nibbānaṁ

This is peaceful, this is excellent, that is: the stilling of all fabrications, the relinquishment of all attachments, the destruction of craving, detachment, cessation, extinction.

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Re: Meaning of the first verse of Siri­maṇḍat­thera­gāthā (6.13)

Post by DooDoot » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:15 am

cappuccino wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:13 am
1 John 1:9
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Re: Meaning of the first verse of Siri­maṇḍat­thera­gāthā (6.13)

Post by dylanj » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:54 am

Still curious as to how rain saturates closed things & not open things
susukhaṃ vata nibbānaṃ,
sammā­sambud­dha­desitaṃ;
asokaṃ virajaṃ khemaṃ,
yattha dukkhaṃ nirujjhatī


Oh! extinction is so very blissful,
As taught by the One Rightly Self-Awakened:
Sorrowless, stainless, secure;
Where suffering all ceases


etaṁ santaṁ etaṁ panītaṁ yadidaṁ sabbasaṅkhārasamatho sabbūpadhipaṭi nissaggo taṇhakkhayo virāgo nirodho nibbānaṁ

This is peaceful, this is excellent, that is: the stilling of all fabrications, the relinquishment of all attachments, the destruction of craving, detachment, cessation, extinction.

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Re: Meaning of the first verse of Siri­maṇḍat­thera­gāthā (6.13)

Post by chownah » Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:01 pm

dylanj wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:54 am
Still curious as to how rain saturates closed things & not open things
I just bumped up a thread called "the rain soddens what is covered". It is right here in the general theravada discussion forum.....have a look.
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Post by dylanj » Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:04 pm

chownah wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:01 pm
dylanj wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:54 am
Still curious as to how rain saturates closed things & not open things
I just bumped up a thread called "the rain soddens what is covered". It is right here in the general theravada discussion forum.....have a look.
chownah
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susukhaṃ vata nibbānaṃ,
sammā­sambud­dha­desitaṃ;
asokaṃ virajaṃ khemaṃ,
yattha dukkhaṃ nirujjhatī


Oh! extinction is so very blissful,
As taught by the One Rightly Self-Awakened:
Sorrowless, stainless, secure;
Where suffering all ceases


etaṁ santaṁ etaṁ panītaṁ yadidaṁ sabbasaṅkhārasamatho sabbūpadhipaṭi nissaggo taṇhakkhayo virāgo nirodho nibbānaṁ

This is peaceful, this is excellent, that is: the stilling of all fabrications, the relinquishment of all attachments, the destruction of craving, detachment, cessation, extinction.

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Re: Meaning of the first verse of Siri­maṇḍat­thera­gāthā (6.13)

Post by SDC » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:54 pm

Here is the other thread: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=22813

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