False Memories and Questionable Buddhist Lore

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False Memories and Questionable Buddhist Lore

Post by l_rivers » Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:08 am

I have two memories of teachings by the Buddha and their import that I wish to confirm as I can't track them down and at 67 I may be misremembering badly. I would be very grateful for references to the accurate sources for my sloppy memory.

First is a teaching where he "says" "There have been Religions and Philosophies for thousands of years, yet human character and the consequences of human conduct remain unchanged. Therefore I say we must apply ourselves to our own salvation."

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Second the teaching where he "says" "Examine the dhamma as it accords with your reason and what you have been taught"
This quote is likely misunderstood. I read an essay some years ago in which it is explained the Buddha ISN'T advocating free thought once you have joined the Sangha, he is saying, until they are ready, let them progress as best they can. Lost essay. It was convincing. :rolleye:

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Re: False Memories and Questionable Buddhist Lore

Post by retrofuturist » Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:55 am

Greetings,

Regarding the first instance, it could be one of the two suttas mentioned in this post.

The second sounds like the Kalama Sutta, but do let us know if you were thinking of something else.

Metta,
Paul. :)
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"One discerns wrong view as wrong view, and right view as right view. This is one's right view." (MN 117)

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Re: False Memories and Questionable Buddhist Lore

Post by l_rivers » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:59 pm

Thanks everybody for the assist. I have come to realize the first false memory may be a one sentence lauding of the Buddha's approach by Bertrand Russel... It is good to check in with good spiritual friends before opening one's mouth. :namaste:

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