Asking for Help re: nutriment and sensual desire

A discussion on all aspects of Theravāda Buddhism
binocular
Posts: 4046
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:13 pm

Re: Asking for Help re: nutriment and sensual desire

Post by binocular » Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:10 am

archaic wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:39 am
You are also correct about lifestyle; unless my mealtimes and meal choices become very predictable, it will likely be difficult to find an adequate resolution.
And try not to beat yourself up too much. Homemade vegetarian food, especially one that contains a lot of legumes and grains, requires quite a bit of planning and preparation; usually more than meals that contain meat or which are cooked from commercially prepared food. It requires even more planning if one is cooking only for one person most of the time. This is the reason why not just a few people give up on it -- it's simply too demanding.

So bear in mind that what you're trying to do is something that is objectively hard to do; and that whatever resistance you're feeling in your mind isn't just some idle idiosyncracy of yours, but something much more general and common.

Good luck!

archaic
Posts: 23
Joined: Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:42 pm
Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada

Re: Asking for Help re: nutriment and sensual desire

Post by archaic » Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:47 pm

binocular wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:10 am
archaic wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:39 am
You are also correct about lifestyle; unless my mealtimes and meal choices become very predictable, it will likely be difficult to find an adequate resolution.
And try not to beat yourself up too much. Homemade vegetarian food, especially one that contains a lot of legumes and grains, requires quite a bit of planning and preparation; usually more than meals that contain meat or which are cooked from commercially prepared food. It requires even more planning if one is cooking only for one person most of the time. This is the reason why not just a few people give up on it -- it's simply too demanding.

So bear in mind that what you're trying to do is something that is objectively hard to do; and that whatever resistance you're feeling in your mind isn't just some idle idiosyncracy of yours, but something much more general and common.

Good luck!
Thank you. This is truly very balanced, insightful, and helpful of you to say.

Metta.

User avatar
_anicca_
Posts: 313
Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 9:44 pm

Re: Asking for Help re: nutriment and sensual desire

Post by _anicca_ » Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:58 pm

I believe that one can be overweight and still be enlightened. For instance, they could have overindulged in food prior to eliminating sensual pleasures, so now they are reaping the kamma of that with the obesity and the poor eating habits.

Intermittent fasting (such as only eating for 8 hours a day or fasting once or twice a week), really paying attention to your hunger - eat mindfully, intelligently, and intuitively- eat till you are just full "enough", having scheduled times for meals and snacks and not eating outside of that is another idea.

The idea here is that you're not being blown around by your desires for certain flavors: eat what the body needs, and not what the mind wants.



**It should be noted that the issue is your thinking about the food. You need to find a way to stop your thoughts. If you didn't think about food, your mind wouldn't crave. The body is the mind's puppet to go and reach for sensual pleasures.
"A virtuous monk, Kotthita my friend, should attend in an appropriate way to the five clinging-aggregates as inconstant, stressful, a disease, a cancer, an arrow, painful, an affliction, alien, a dissolution, an emptiness, not-self."

:buddha1:

http://vipassanameditation.asia

User avatar
_anicca_
Posts: 313
Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 9:44 pm

Re: Asking for Help re: nutriment and sensual desire

Post by _anicca_ » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:04 pm

Reference this hunger scale.

https://www.google.com/search?q=hunger+ ... 6&dpr=1.75

Learn to give your hunger a number (1-10, as detailed here) and stop before you get above a 7.
"A virtuous monk, Kotthita my friend, should attend in an appropriate way to the five clinging-aggregates as inconstant, stressful, a disease, a cancer, an arrow, painful, an affliction, alien, a dissolution, an emptiness, not-self."

:buddha1:

http://vipassanameditation.asia

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Yahoo [Bot] and 70 guests