Yeah! - good!
That "bare attention" stuff is the realm of the those who have very well understood, that they can play on the ambiguity of the matter - knowing pertinently, that this "bare attention" can only occur when one has, at least, totally abandonned the kama loka.
While telling you that you should experience it, while in the kama loka. And obviously telling you that the Buddha, enjoined you to do the latter.
Painful! - and a major reason to want to leave this all shebang, we're living in.
They dress that same bloody table; ever bloody day that nāmarūpa makes.
You have to understand the difference between khandhas & dhatus. More precisely, between khandhas & khandhas that "turns out" dhatus, like in SN 22.3, or SN 22.53.chownah wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:27 pmYou asked "What is consciousness not landing on?" and I think the sutta gives you the answer.
Also, notice how in the first half it deals with form, feelings, perception, and fabrications...while in the second half (about abandoning passion) these four are mentioned but consciousness is added too....so it seems you have consciousness not landing on consciousness? Seems strangly asymetric to not have consciousness in the first half and yet have it in the second half....and consciousness not landing on consciousness seems a bit bizarre.
Khandhas are what exists - Dhatus are khandhas that manifest themselves with something new.
Again, when you have seen a Picasso's painting, that has added to all the aggregates (khandhas) - these aggregates are lying there, unmanifested - waiting for some more intention and desire to see more Picasso's painting.
When these intentions get you to see another painting, the consciousness that was maintained, establishes itself in the khandhas. Each khandha is the home of this consciousness (SN 22.3).
In such a way, the old khandhas (aggregates) become new elements (dhatus). And the result of all these khandhas is the new consciousness element.
How to understand dhatus?
For instance, there is the earth element (dhatu) in a block of wood (aggregate of wood) - dārukkhandhe pathavīdhātu.
There is also the water element, etc.
In our case, the aggregates of the new Picasso's painting, become totally new dhatus. There are no old dhatus in the new painting. That is to say that the old khandhas (the old feelings, perception, synergies, etc. - that Picasso had put in the old painting), are replaced by new elements (dhatus) (new feelings, perception, synergies, etc.) - The new dhatus, forms the new aggregate. But it is also the new + the olds.
Its a bit complicated to try to explain that: - in an aggregate (khandha) - the new aggregate is, in itself a totally different set of new dhatus - but at the same time, this aggregate is the new; but also the old.
In other words, the new painting that you see, is a totally different set of dhatus, that forms that new painting. But it is also the aggregate of all the Picasso's paintings you've ever saw in your life.
Dhatus are often the new manifested parts of khandhas. The new thing you grasp to, among a set of old aggregates. The new painting, among all the old, you've seen.
Dhatus are often the new elements, that will make the old khandhas attractive again.
Like if the earth element of the log of wood, was changing its color from a reddish color to a an orangeish color; to attract your attention.
The orangeish element color is your new aggregated experience - but the redish and orangeish elements colors, are your summated aggregated experience. The latter is just lying there, waiting for a new experience, with new dhatus/aggregate.
I hope you can catch that general idea, in the context of the establishment of consciousness.
That is to say that the "old" consciousness, makes its home in the new dhatus of the khandhas (but not in the consciousness dhatu). Because it is the sum of these new elements, that makes the "new" consciousness element. This is what is expressed in SN 22.3, or SN 22.53.