where did the mahayana come from

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Re: where did the mahayana come from

Post by Ngawang Drolma. » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:54 pm

jcsuperstar wrote:from what i've gathered, the perfections were perfected over many many life times as a bottisatta, these stories are laid out in the jataka tales

the buddha chose to take a billion life times to do this, but since he did it theres no need for us to, though i guess you could if you wanted to. the difference i see here in mahayana and theravada is the mahayana take these vows as if they have some sort of control over their lives simple by vowing, i think think now of when i was a mahayana buddhist, i couldnt keep my marraige together how was i expected to keep an untold number of future lives together... :jawdrop:
Hi jcsuperstar,

Another way to understand this is that these vows are related to motivation for practice in the here and now.

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Re: where did the mahayana come from

Post by Ceisiwr » Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:37 pm

Thanks Tilltbillings

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Re: where did the mahayana come from

Post by mountain » Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:04 pm

All religions must evolve if they are to become universal. I would see Mahayana as that vehicle which suits some cultures and not others. The history of Buddhism often does not carry such sharp deliniations as many would wish.If we do believe in skillful teaching then it must be dynamic rather than static. Just an opinion.
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Re: where did the mahayana come from

Post by jcsuperstar » Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:17 pm

tiltbillings wrote:
clw_uk wrote:I know this is a bit off topic but why did no one agree with the Sarvāstivādas. I cant find any info on them myself
Get Rupert Gethin's THE FOUNDATIONS OF BUDDHISM, which is an inexpensive paperback.
ive seen this book around would you recomend it over all?
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Re: where did the mahayana come from

Post by tiltbillings » Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:25 pm

Me: "Get Rupert Gethin's THE FOUNDATIONS OF BUDDHISM, which is an inexpensive paperback."

jc: ive seen this book around would you recomend it over all?

It is a very good work by a scholar who is also a Buddhist.
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12

This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.

“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723

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Re: where did the mahayana come from

Post by tiltbillings » Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:11 am

Also, I'd recommend Paul Williams', a Mahayana specialist, BUDDHIST THOUGHT. It is in paper and can be gotten cheaply used. His chapter on the origin of the Mahayana is excellent.
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12

This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.

“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723

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Re: where did the mahayana come from

Post by jcsuperstar » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:08 am

thanks
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Re: where did the mahayana come from

Post by Ceisiwr » Sat Feb 14, 2009 1:07 am

There is a website here that gives some bare info on the beginings of mahayana and doctrinal differences


http://wisdomquarterly.blogspot.com/200 ... rence.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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