Abhidhamma: Is an abortion killing a living being?

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Re: Abhidhamma: Is an abortion killing a living being?

Post by Dhammarakkhito » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:56 am

cappuccino wrote:
Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:15 pm
Better safe than sorry right?
not really in my opinion. actually, there is a sutta where buddha says something like ignorant beings perceive no wrongdoing where there is and perceive wrongdoing where there is not.
focusing on this question perhaps will make me more confused. would like to see a discussion of those relevant texts in pali

"XVII
1
52. But when that minimal amount arises in the two kinds of generation
termed egg-born and womb-born, it amounts to no more than a drop of cream of
ghee on a single fibre of new-born [kid’s] wool, and it is known as the “embryo
in the first stage” (S I 206)." could someone explain this to me maybe via pm.
"Just as the ocean has a single taste — that of salt — in the same way, this Dhamma-Vinaya has a single taste: that of release."
— Ud 5.5

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Re: Abhidhamma: Is an abortion killing a living being?

Post by Dhammarakkhito » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:15 pm

the vinaya expressly prohibits abortion https://suttacentral.net/en/pi-tv-bu-vb-pj3
and it apparently prohibits contraceptives also. might as well close the thread
"Just as the ocean has a single taste — that of salt — in the same way, this Dhamma-Vinaya has a single taste: that of release."
— Ud 5.5

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Re: Abhidhamma: Is an abortion killing a living being?

Post by mikenz66 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:51 pm

Sovatthika wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:15 pm
the vinaya expressly prohibits abortion https://suttacentral.net/en/pi-tv-bu-vb-pj3
and it apparently prohibits contraceptives also. might as well close the thread
This prohibits monks administering contraception:
On one occasion a fertile woman said to a monk who was supported by her family, “Venerable, please find me some medicine to help me not get pregnant.” “All right,” he said … “There’s no offense entailing expulsion, but there’s an offense of wrong conduct.”
But it is a stretch to say that contraceptives are prohibited if administered by lay people.

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