Both Nibbana must be experienced while unconditioned.....yet both are real.Zom wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:16 pmFirst, there are 2 types of nibbana - with residue and without. First one, as I see it, and as Ven. Sariputta says, is "just a destruction of defilements". Which is well, the mind of arahant.
Then, there is 2nd type - without residue. This is not "psychical nibbana", but a "real one", a final one. It is this nibbana which is unconditioned, but in a sense, that absense of something simply can not be conditioned at all! When arahant dies, his nibbana (extinguishing) is not conditioned, for were it conditioned, he might appear once again somewhere - when these conditions disappear. Do you see what I mean?
What you are really trying to describe is that the differences between the two is one is restricted and the other is unrestricted.
AN10.81:.....in the same way the Tathagata — freed, dissociated, & released from these ten things — dwells with unrestricted awareness.
Here the word awareness is used. Other text uses the term supramundane consciousness because it is beyond the mundane. Consciousness without feature or surface is the same here.