Can I mix and match precepts?

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StandBright
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Re: Can I mix and match precepts?

Post by StandBright » Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:25 pm

I trust that the precepts are in a precise order for a reason.

In the case of abstaining from alcohol and other intoxicants, here is my guess (based on personal experience, not directly from sutras) as to why it is part of the 5 precepts but it is the last of them.

Intoxication inhibits mindfulness, which is of course key. Extreme intoxication can lead one to not only be unmindful, but to forget to follow the other 4 precepts.

However, in moderation, this inhibition is only temporary. I believe that we should all aspire to completely abstain from intoxicants, but an occasional drink is not as harmful as, say, an occasional killing.

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Re: Can I mix and match precepts?

Post by SarathW » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:54 am

Hi Stanbright

Then why don't you sayo casional braeking all five precepts OK?
:thinking:
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Re: Can I mix and match precepts?

Post by SarathW » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:55 am

Mkoll wrote:You'll do whatever you want, Sarath. Just remember the law of kamma.
"Student, beings are owners of kamma, heir to kamma, born of kamma, related through kamma, and have kamma as their arbitrator. Kamma is what creates distinctions among beings in terms of coarseness & refinement."
-MN 135

:anjali:
Thanks Mkoll
Can you give me the link for MN 135.
:)
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Re: Can I mix and match precepts?

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Re: Can I mix and match precepts?

Post by StandBright » Sun Jan 19, 2014 1:51 am

SarathW wrote:Hi Stanbright

Then why don't you sayo casional braeking all five precepts OK?
:thinking:
What do you mean by "OK"? Breaking any precept leads to suffering. The only difference would be the amount of suffering.

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Re: Can I mix and match precepts?

Post by SarathW » Sun Jan 19, 2014 10:37 pm

Hi SB
Thanks. I see your point now. :)
I think even occasional drinking will hinder your meditation.
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Re: Can I mix and match precepts?

Post by vishuroshan » Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:44 pm

dear sarath

dont drink, if you meditate, you need to be mindful. percepts cannot be mixed. look at your own mind. you will know how to get rid of Evild deeds if you see you mind(your thoughts). you will have a good virtue and if you develop it further it will take you to the next stages, SAMADHI / WISDOM.

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