What is the last thing to let go?

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SarathW
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Re: What is the last thing to let go?

Post by SarathW » Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:14 am

my understanding leads me to think that all desire for answers is the last to go.
There are many facets of letting go.
It is a gradual letting go.
Letting go of all desire for answers is the stopping of Vitakka and Vicara. (ie second Jhana)
Final letting go is what you throw to Nibbana.
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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Re: What is the last thing to let go?

Post by SarathW » Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:18 am

With respect Bhante, I'm confused about whether we are considering craving as a feeling or as a word symbol
While waiting for an answer from Bhante D, this is my opinion.
According to Abhidhamma, a craving is an unwholesome mental state and considered Kamma.
Perception and feeling are not Kamma.
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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Re: What is the last thing to let go?

Post by FallAway » Sat Aug 19, 2017 4:10 pm

SarathW wrote:It is a gradual letting go.
Letting go of all desire for answers is the stopping of Vitakka and Vicara. (ie second Jhana)
Final letting go is what you throw to Nibbana.
Thank you SarathW for your responses. I believe the Buddha agreed that prajna (sudden enlightenment) was also possible, through any of the jhanas.
SarathW wrote:According to Abhidhamma, a craving is an unwholesome mental state and considered Kamma.
Perception and feeling are not Kamma.
When I experience craving I notice it first as the feeling of attraction, and I experience it in my body. My mind then forms the intent to satisfy it or not, kamma. With body mindfulness I notice neutral feelings, this my mind will also define as non-craving. The bodily feelings come before I apply rational thought, i.e. definitions. Agreed that craving, once recognized through the body, leads to an unwholesome mental state, which can also be recognized.

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Re: What is the last thing to let go?

Post by SarathW » Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:06 pm

When I experience craving I notice it first as the feeling of attraction
These are called Vipaka (effect) or old habits.
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