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equal value?xtracorrupt wrote:Every perspective is of equal value, you become attached to a certain perspective when it relates to what u deem necessary in life. This is why happiness over everything perspective is good because it deem's happiness as necessary in life, believing that happiness is a requirement would be the the most beneficial delusion possible if one values happiness as the most important thing.
yes similar to what I'm explaining, you value some perspectives over another because you value something, in this case it appears you value the Dhamma, valuing the Dhamma is not a rightful perspective because there is no one to define what is the rightful perspective, however valuing the Dhamma is good( my opinion) because it enforces valuing happiness.Cittasanto wrote:equal value?xtracorrupt wrote:Every perspective is of equal value, you become attached to a certain perspective when it relates to what u deem necessary in life. This is why happiness over everything perspective is good because it deem's happiness as necessary in life, believing that happiness is a requirement would be the the most beneficial delusion possible if one values happiness as the most important thing.
doubt it, some perspectives are simply wrong. a perspective that leads to entanglement is wrong for instance when it comes to the Dhamma.
yes and the earth is flat, only 20 years old and made of cheese is equal to the scientific view!xtracorrupt wrote:yes similar to what I'm explaining, you value some perspectives over another because you value something, in this case it appears you value the Dhamma, valuing the Dhamma is not a rightful perspective because there is no one to define what is the rightful perspective, however valuing the Dhamma is good( my opinion) because it enforces valuing happiness.Cittasanto wrote:equal value?xtracorrupt wrote:Every perspective is of equal value, you become attached to a certain perspective when it relates to what u deem necessary in life. This is why happiness over everything perspective is good because it deem's happiness as necessary in life, believing that happiness is a requirement would be the the most beneficial delusion possible if one values happiness as the most important thing.
doubt it, some perspectives are simply wrong. a perspective that leads to entanglement is wrong for instance when it comes to the Dhamma.
Be careful, you are becoming ignorant because you do not fully understand right view, one should try and keep a right view that comes as beneficial, believing the earth is flat, 20 years old and made of cheese would cause delusion, one should try and keep a right view that would provide happiness, heres an example which also relates to right view, a crack lady tries to teach you something but you disregard her information because you judge her perspective as less valuable as to others but if you believed that every perspective is equal, you would consider every perspective equally therefore common perspectives would bring knowledge as to the reality of things. A good way of thinking about it would be to try and think democratically, in a society what makes another person's vote more important than another? Nothing because not everybody has agreed on whats right therefore whats rightful can't be defined. However lets say you recognized that more people considered cheese as being cheese as compared to a shoe, the fact the more people share the perspective of cheese being cheese should bring acknowledgement therefore bringing knowledge.Cittasanto wrote:yes similar to what I'm explaining, you value some perspectives over another because you value something, in this case it appears you value the Dhamma, valuing the Dhamma is not a rightful perspective because there is no one to define what is the rightful perspective, however valuing the Dhamma is good( my opinion) because it enforces valuing happiness.Cittasanto wrote:equal value?xtracorrupt wrote:Every perspective is of equal value, you become attached to a certain perspective when it relates to what u deem necessary in life. This is why happiness over everything perspective is good because it deem's happiness as necessary in life, believing that happiness is a requirement would be the the most beneficial delusion possible if one values happiness as the most important thing.
doubt it, some perspectives are simply wrong. a perspective that leads to entanglement is wrong for instance when it comes to the Dhamma.
yes and the earth is flat, only 20 years old and made of cheese is equal to the scientific view!
value is in usefulness, not in the view.
and be careful with presuming too much.
yet by your own words the example is of equal value!xtracorrupt wrote:Be careful, you are becoming ignorant because you do not fully understand right view, one should try and keep a right view that comes as beneficial, believing the earth is flat, 20 years old and made of cheese would cause delusion, one should try and keep a right view that would provide happiness, heres an example which also relates to right view, a crack lady tries to teach you something but you disregard her information because you judge her perspective as less valuable as to others but if you believed that every perspective is equal, you would consider every perspective equally therefore common perspectives would bring knowledge as to the reality of things. A good way of thinking about it would be to try and think democratically, in a society what makes another person's vote more important than another? Nothing because not everybody has agreed on whats right therefore whats rightful can't be defined. However lets say you recognized that more people considered cheese as being cheese as compared to a shoe, the fact the more people share the perspective of cheese being cheese should bring acknowledgement therefore bringing knowledge.
How are you able to make these statements? Also, Have you considered miscommunication when forming these opinions?Cittasanto wrote:yet by your own words the example is of equal value!xtracorrupt wrote:Be careful, you are becoming ignorant because you do not fully understand right view, one should try and keep a right view that comes as beneficial, believing the earth is flat, 20 years old and made of cheese would cause delusion, one should try and keep a right view that would provide happiness, heres an example which also relates to right view, a crack lady tries to teach you something but you disregard her information because you judge her perspective as less valuable as to others but if you believed that every perspective is equal, you would consider every perspective equally therefore common perspectives would bring knowledge as to the reality of things. A good way of thinking about it would be to try and think democratically, in a society what makes another person's vote more important than another? Nothing because not everybody has agreed on whats right therefore whats rightful can't be defined. However lets say you recognized that more people considered cheese as being cheese as compared to a shoe, the fact the more people share the perspective of cheese being cheese should bring acknowledgement therefore bringing knowledge.
you gave no indication of anything other than equality of worth, no indication of what you have put here. so if you want to be clear initially instead of setting up worthless word plays it would actually be better than you presumptive red herrings.
by seeing you do the same thing several times gives the ability to say it. Your lack of communicating what you are fully meaning is what is referred to, you flop arround words trying to sound mystic with elements of new age pseudo-buddhism.xtracorrupt wrote:How are you able to make these statements? Also, Have you considered miscommunication when forming these opinions?Cittasanto wrote:yet by your own words the example is of equal value!xtracorrupt wrote:Be careful, you are becoming ignorant because you do not fully understand right view, one should try and keep a right view that comes as beneficial, believing the earth is flat, 20 years old and made of cheese would cause delusion, one should try and keep a right view that would provide happiness, heres an example which also relates to right view, a crack lady tries to teach you something but you disregard her information because you judge her perspective as less valuable as to others but if you believed that every perspective is equal, you would consider every perspective equally therefore common perspectives would bring knowledge as to the reality of things. A good way of thinking about it would be to try and think democratically, in a society what makes another person's vote more important than another? Nothing because not everybody has agreed on whats right therefore whats rightful can't be defined. However lets say you recognized that more people considered cheese as being cheese as compared to a shoe, the fact the more people share the perspective of cheese being cheese should bring acknowledgement therefore bringing knowledge.
you gave no indication of anything other than equality of worth, no indication of what you have put here. so if you want to be clear initially instead of setting up worthless word plays it would actually be better than you presumptive red herrings.
Are u talking about me personally or in a general sense? because if u are talking about me personally I think you are being ignorant because i want only to bring happiness. I think you will hopefully( because i want you to desire happiness ) judge me calling you ignorant because you have the sense of not wanting/needing to be ignorant,xtracorrupt wrote:How are you able to make these statements? Also, Have you considered miscommunication when forming these opinions?Cittasanto wrote:the quotes have been assembled differently because of limits but i have tried to put it into a way in trying to limit delusion.xtracorrupt wrote:Be careful, you are becoming ignorant because you do not fully understand right view, one should try and keep a right view that comes as beneficial, believing the earth is flat, 20 years old and made of cheese would cause delusion, one should try and keep a right view that would provide happiness, heres an example which also relates to right view, a crack lady tries to teach you something but you disregard her information because you judge her perspective as less valuable as to others but if you believed that every perspective is equal, you would consider every perspective equally therefore common perspectives would bring knowledge as to the reality of things. A good way of thinking about it would be to try and think democratically, in a society what makes another person's vote more important than another? Nothing because not everybody has agreed on whats right therefore whats rightful can't be defined. However lets say you recognized that more people considered cheese as being cheese as compared to a shoe, the fact the more people share the perspective of cheese being cheese should bring acknowledgement therefore bringing knowledge.
yet by your own words the example is of equal value!
you gave no indication of anything other than equality of worth, no indication of what you have put here. so if you want to be clear initially instead of setting up worthless word plays it would actually be better than you presumptive red herrings.
by seeing you do the same thing several times gives the ability to say it. Your lack of communicating what you are fully meaning is what is referred to, you flop arround words trying to sound mystic with elements of new age pseudo-buddhism.
if you say something mean what you say the first time round instead of trying to show how enlightened you are
take your own medicine, it is a simple element!xtracorrupt wrote:
Are u talking about me personally or in a general sense? because if u are talking about me personally I think you are being ignorant because i want only to bring happiness. I think you will hopefully( because i want you to desire happiness ) judge me calling you ignorant because you have the sense of not wanting/needing to be ignorant,
why would i need this medicine?Cittasanto wrote:take your own medicine, it is a simple element!xtracorrupt wrote:
Are u talking about me personally or in a general sense? because if u are talking about me personally I think you are being ignorant because i want only to bring happiness. I think you will hopefully( because i want you to desire happiness ) judge me calling you ignorant because you have the sense of not wanting/needing to be ignorant,
don't ask others to take what you are not willing to take!xtracorrupt wrote: why would i need this medicine?
But why would i take something that i do not need? what purpose would this serve? instead of doing something meaningless should i not try and bring happiness?Cittasanto wrote:don't ask others to take what you are not willing to take!xtracorrupt wrote: why would i need this medicine?