Which suttas do you consider as the most important?
Re: Which suttas do you consider as the most important?
I love that site, nice way to translate side by side.
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Re: Which suttas do you consider as the most important?
I just want to say thanx for bringing this site to my attention.
Now having obtained a precious human body,
I do not have the luxury of remaining on a distracted path.
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I do not have the luxury of remaining on a distracted path.
~ Tibetan Book of the Dead
Re: Which suttas do you consider as the most important?
Hello BhanteBhikkhu Pesala wrote: Just for you, The Sekha Sutta.
I see this at that link:
I'm curious about this "reflection on the mind as freed." Do you know of more detail where that is described?2. Sekha Sutta.- On five things leading to decline in a monk’s training: delight in business, in gossip, in sleeping, in company, and want of reflection on the mind as freed. A.iii.116.
"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230
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have you decided on which text to do next?
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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
John Stuart Mill
Re: Which suttas do you consider as the most important?
it seems outside of the classic Dhammacak, Anattalak, Mahasatip, Anapanasati, and Kalama Suttas, the list becomes quickly very personal.
I think of doing these first, and then just follow my inspiration, which will keep me rather close to practical instructions and definitions. Probably starting with Kayagatasati Sutta, AN 8-54 (the best for householders I think)... and that alone will keep me busy for a long while!
I think of doing these first, and then just follow my inspiration, which will keep me rather close to practical instructions and definitions. Probably starting with Kayagatasati Sutta, AN 8-54 (the best for householders I think)... and that alone will keep me busy for a long while!
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Re: Which suttas do you consider as the most important?
Benefit of the Kayagatasati sutta is half the Satipatthana sutta is done! so why not swap it to before and then it is only the refrain you need to work on and the other (2/3 - half in length) just for practical purposes/speed...!Sekha wrote:it seems outside of the classic Dhammacak, Anattalak, Mahasatip, Anapanasati, and Kalama Suttas, the list becomes quickly very personal.
I think of doing these first, and then just follow my inspiration, which will keep me rather close to practical instructions and definitions. Probably starting with Kayagatasati Sutta, AN 8-54 (the best for householders I think)... and that alone will keep me busy for a long while!
Blog, Suttas, Aj Chah, Facebook.
He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
John Stuart Mill
He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
John Stuart Mill
Re: Which suttas do you consider as the most important?
anyway, the whole process while probably take months, if not years because I also work on my french website at the same time and I also diversify the work with small projects like deepening an article about a tricky Pali word etc.
I also started just copy/pasting Than B's translations with the Pali text for comparison and bubbles on those words a chose to translate in his own way, which not everyone ever agrees on (dukkha=stress f. ex), which i believe can also be very interesting for Pali autodidacts
example here:
http://www.buddha-vacana.org/sutta/majjhima/mn053.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I also started just copy/pasting Than B's translations with the Pali text for comparison and bubbles on those words a chose to translate in his own way, which not everyone ever agrees on (dukkha=stress f. ex), which i believe can also be very interesting for Pali autodidacts
example here:
http://www.buddha-vacana.org/sutta/majjhima/mn053.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Where knowledge ends, religion begins. - B. Disraeli
http://www.buddha-vacana.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Which suttas do you consider as the most important?
Just started the Mahāsatipaṭṭhāna Sutta :
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http://www.buddha-vacana.org/sutta/digha/dn22.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Which suttas do you consider as the most important?
Kalama sutta
Metta Sutta
Tittha Sutta
And a few others...
Metta Sutta
Tittha Sutta
And a few others...
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Apparent here and now, timeless, encouraging investigation,
Leading to liberation, to be experienced individually by the wise. "
He is impeccable in conduct and understanding, the Serene One, the Knower of the Worlds;
He trains perfectly those who wish to be trained; he is Teacher of gods and men; he is Awake and Holy. "
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"The Dhamma is well-expounded by the Blessed One,
Apparent here and now, timeless, encouraging investigation,
Leading to liberation, to be experienced individually by the wise. "
Re: Which suttas do you consider as the most important?
Sabba sutta summarizes all (SN 35.23). Actually this is all that is relevant to "know". As an amendment (maybe) the Kaccayanagotta Sutta (SN 12.15).
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Hi SekhaSekha wrote:It would be useful for me if you could list the 5 or 10 suttas that you consider as the most useful/important, or simply the first ones that come to your mind
thank you
Here's a list of my bookmarked suttas - i.e. ones which struck / strike a chord...
Anapanasati Sutta
Attadanda Sutta
Chachakka Sutta
Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta
Kannakatthala Sutta
Karaniya Metta Sutta
Kayagata-sata Sutta
Kitagiri Sutta
Magga-vibhanga Sutta
Maha-satipatthana Sutta
Piya Sutta
Ratana Sutta
Sigalovada Sutta
...but my list is growing fast.
At some point I plan to organise these somehow.
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Re: Which suttas do you consider as the most important?
A Table of the Wings to Awakening
I. The Seven Sets
The Four Frames of Reference (satipaṭṭhāna)
Remaining focused on the body in & of itself — ardent, alert, & mindful — putting aside greed & distress with reference to the world.
Remaining focused on feelings in & of themselves — ardent, alert, & mindful — putting aside greed & distress with reference to the world.
Remaining focused on the mind in & of itself — ardent, alert, & mindful — putting aside greed & distress with reference to the world.
Remaining focused on [doctrines] in & of themselves — ardent, alert, & mindful — putting aside greed & distress with reference to the world.
The Four Right Exertions (sammappadhāna)
Generating desire, endeavoring, arousing persistence, upholding & exerting one's intent for the sake of the non-arising of evil, unskillful qualities that have not yet arisen.
Generating desire, endeavoring, arousing persistence, upholding & exerting one's intent for the sake of the abandoning of evil, unskillful qualities that have arisen.
Generating desire, endeavoring, arousing persistence, upholding & exerting one's intent for the sake of the arising of skillful qualities that have not yet arisen.
Generating desire, endeavoring, arousing persistence, upholding & exerting one's intent for the maintenance, non-confusion, increase, plenitude, development, & culmination of skillful qualities that have arisen.
The Four Bases of Power (iddhipāda)
Developing the base of power endowed with concentration founded on desire & the fabrications of exertion.
Developing the base of power endowed with concentration founded on persistence & the fabrications of exertion.
Developing the base of power endowed with concentration founded on intent & the fabrications of exertion.
Developing the base of power endowed with concentration founded on discrimination & the fabrications of exertion.
The Five Faculties (indrīya)
The faculty of conviction (saddhindrīya).
The faculty of persistence (viriyindrīya).
The faculty of mindfulness (satindrīya).
The faculty of concentration (samādhindrīya).
The faculty of discernment (paññindrīya).
The Five Strengths (bala)
The strength of conviction (saddhā-bala).
The strength of persistence (viriya-bala).
The strength of mindfulness (sati-bala).
The strength of concentration (samādhi-bala).
The strength of discernment (paññā-bala).
The Seven Factors for Awakening (bojjhaṅga)
Mindfulness as a factor for Awakening (sati-sambojjhaṅga).
Analysis of qualities as a factor for Awakening (dhamma-vicaya-sambojjhaṅga).
Persistence as a factor for Awakening (viriya-sambojjhaṅga).
Rapture as a factor for Awakening (pīti-sambojjhaṅga).
Serenity as a factor for Awakening (passaddhi-sambojjhaṅga).
Concentration as a factor for Awakening (samādhi-sambojjhaṅga).
Equanimity as a factor for Awakening (upekkhā-sambojjhaṅga).
The Noble Eightfold Path (ariya-magga)
Right view (sammā-diṭṭhi).
Right resolve (sammā-saṅkappa).
Right speech (sammā-vācā).
Right action (sammā-kammanta).
Right livelihood (sammā-ājīva).
Right effort (sammā-vāyāma).
Right mindfulness (sammā-sati).
Right concentration (sammā-samādhi).
II. The Factors of the Seven Sets classed under the Five Faculties
Conviction Right Speech (Eightfold Path)
Right Action (Eightfold Path)
Right Livelihood (Eightfold Path)
Desire (Bases of Power)
Persistence Right Effort (Eightfold Path)
Four Right Exertions
Persistence (Bases of Power)
Persistence (Factors for Awakening)
Mindfulness Four Frames of Reference
Right Mindfulness (Eightfold Path)
Intent (Bases of Power)
Mindfulness (Factors for Awakening)
Concentration Four Bases for Power
Right Concentration (Eightfold Path)
Rapture (Factors for Awakening)
Serenity (Factors for Awakening)
Concentration (Factors for Awakening)
Equanimity (Factors for Awakening)
Discernment Right View (Eightfold Path)
Right Aspiration (Eightfold Path)
Analysis of Qualities (Factors for Awakening)
Discrimination (Bases of Power)
Equanimity (Factors for Awakening)
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/aut ... html#table
I. The Seven Sets
The Four Frames of Reference (satipaṭṭhāna)
Remaining focused on the body in & of itself — ardent, alert, & mindful — putting aside greed & distress with reference to the world.
Remaining focused on feelings in & of themselves — ardent, alert, & mindful — putting aside greed & distress with reference to the world.
Remaining focused on the mind in & of itself — ardent, alert, & mindful — putting aside greed & distress with reference to the world.
Remaining focused on [doctrines] in & of themselves — ardent, alert, & mindful — putting aside greed & distress with reference to the world.
The Four Right Exertions (sammappadhāna)
Generating desire, endeavoring, arousing persistence, upholding & exerting one's intent for the sake of the non-arising of evil, unskillful qualities that have not yet arisen.
Generating desire, endeavoring, arousing persistence, upholding & exerting one's intent for the sake of the abandoning of evil, unskillful qualities that have arisen.
Generating desire, endeavoring, arousing persistence, upholding & exerting one's intent for the sake of the arising of skillful qualities that have not yet arisen.
Generating desire, endeavoring, arousing persistence, upholding & exerting one's intent for the maintenance, non-confusion, increase, plenitude, development, & culmination of skillful qualities that have arisen.
The Four Bases of Power (iddhipāda)
Developing the base of power endowed with concentration founded on desire & the fabrications of exertion.
Developing the base of power endowed with concentration founded on persistence & the fabrications of exertion.
Developing the base of power endowed with concentration founded on intent & the fabrications of exertion.
Developing the base of power endowed with concentration founded on discrimination & the fabrications of exertion.
The Five Faculties (indrīya)
The faculty of conviction (saddhindrīya).
The faculty of persistence (viriyindrīya).
The faculty of mindfulness (satindrīya).
The faculty of concentration (samādhindrīya).
The faculty of discernment (paññindrīya).
The Five Strengths (bala)
The strength of conviction (saddhā-bala).
The strength of persistence (viriya-bala).
The strength of mindfulness (sati-bala).
The strength of concentration (samādhi-bala).
The strength of discernment (paññā-bala).
The Seven Factors for Awakening (bojjhaṅga)
Mindfulness as a factor for Awakening (sati-sambojjhaṅga).
Analysis of qualities as a factor for Awakening (dhamma-vicaya-sambojjhaṅga).
Persistence as a factor for Awakening (viriya-sambojjhaṅga).
Rapture as a factor for Awakening (pīti-sambojjhaṅga).
Serenity as a factor for Awakening (passaddhi-sambojjhaṅga).
Concentration as a factor for Awakening (samādhi-sambojjhaṅga).
Equanimity as a factor for Awakening (upekkhā-sambojjhaṅga).
The Noble Eightfold Path (ariya-magga)
Right view (sammā-diṭṭhi).
Right resolve (sammā-saṅkappa).
Right speech (sammā-vācā).
Right action (sammā-kammanta).
Right livelihood (sammā-ājīva).
Right effort (sammā-vāyāma).
Right mindfulness (sammā-sati).
Right concentration (sammā-samādhi).
II. The Factors of the Seven Sets classed under the Five Faculties
Conviction Right Speech (Eightfold Path)
Right Action (Eightfold Path)
Right Livelihood (Eightfold Path)
Desire (Bases of Power)
Persistence Right Effort (Eightfold Path)
Four Right Exertions
Persistence (Bases of Power)
Persistence (Factors for Awakening)
Mindfulness Four Frames of Reference
Right Mindfulness (Eightfold Path)
Intent (Bases of Power)
Mindfulness (Factors for Awakening)
Concentration Four Bases for Power
Right Concentration (Eightfold Path)
Rapture (Factors for Awakening)
Serenity (Factors for Awakening)
Concentration (Factors for Awakening)
Equanimity (Factors for Awakening)
Discernment Right View (Eightfold Path)
Right Aspiration (Eightfold Path)
Analysis of Qualities (Factors for Awakening)
Discrimination (Bases of Power)
Equanimity (Factors for Awakening)
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/aut ... html#table
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Re: Which suttas do you consider as the most important?
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here is a post a made with a list
I would also include Angulimalla Paritta and a few more ie
Sappurisa Sutta: A Person of Integrity https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .than.html
Hard to pick but the Maha-Satipatthana Sutta is the most important one imo.
here is a post a made with a list
I would also include Angulimalla Paritta and a few more ie
Sappurisa Sutta: A Person of Integrity https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .than.html
Hard to pick but the Maha-Satipatthana Sutta is the most important one imo.
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^ 'how to become enlightened in seven days: a self-help guide' https://suttacentral.net/en/dn22
the suttas are all good. all conducive to release, to be treasured
the suttas are all good. all conducive to release, to be treasured
"Just as the ocean has a single taste — that of salt — in the same way, this Dhamma-Vinaya has a single taste: that of release."
— Ud 5.5
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— Ud 5.5
https://www.facebook.com/noblebuddhadha ... 34/?type=3
http://seeingthroughthenet.net/
https://sites.google.com/site/santipada ... allytaught