SeerObserver wrote:There is an account of Ajahn Chah I have seen somewhere (unverified so please let me know). Someone claiming to have just attained stream-entry came to tell him about it. Ajahn Chah says something along the lines that he supposes the meditator is now much better off than a dog (a fairly harsh insult in Thai, to call someone a dog). Afterwards, the meditator is fuming and leaves. Sotapanna?
This is a good link to read side by side with this example.
Manapa wrote:I sent a PM to dhamanando a little while ago about this as he had mentioned an arahant who was complained about du to his manner of speeking.
here is the relevant section of his reply which I am sure he won't mind me sharing here
Arahant Pilindavaccha, in the Pilindavaccha Sutta of the Udāna. Also given in more detail in the Dhammapada Commentary to Dhp. verse 408. The term of insult was 'vasala', meaning hireling or outcaste.
as for the Ajahn Chah part to your second post I have heard of Ajahn Chah being rude on several occasions and this one you mention I think is not directly mentioned in one of the Books, but certainly the reflections
I'm pretty sure that's one of the accounts I saw that I was referring to. The label of hireling is familiar. As for the Ajahn Chah example, it is a skillful use of an instance of rudeness.
Regarding rudeness, it has come to my attention to make the distinction between residual habitual tendencies and defilements. So arahants will not be prone to anger, but may still come off as rude to some.