Should we repay or kill our parents?

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thang
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Should we repay or kill our parents?

Post by thang » Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:16 am

Having killed mother, father, and the two kings, and having destroyed the kingdom together with its revenue officer, the brahmana goes free from dukkha.

Lakundaka Bhaddiya Vatthu: Dhammapada Verse 294
"I tell you, monks, there are two people who are not easy to repay. Which two? Your mother & father. Even if you were to carry your mother on one shoulder & your father on the other shoulder for 100 years, and were to look after them by anointing, massaging, bathing, & rubbing their limbs, and they were to defecate & urinate right there [on your shoulders], you would not in that way pay or repay your parents.

Kataññu Suttas: Gratitude: AN 2.31-32
"Bhikkhus, whatever the Tathāgata speaks, _ all that is just so and NOT otherwise."

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Re: Should we repay or kill our parents?

Post by bodom » Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:20 am

Obviously this verse is not to be taken literally but metaphorically. Here is the explanation from the commentary:
Verse 294: Having killed mother (i.e., Craving), father (i.e., Conceit), and the two kings (i.e., Eternity-belief and Annihilation-belief), and having destroyed the kingdom (i.e., the sense bases and sense objects) together with its revenue officer (i.e., attachment), the brahmana (i.e., the arahat) goes free from dukkha.

Verse 295: Having killed mother, father, the two brahmin kings and having destroyed the hindrances of which the fifth (i.e., doubt) is like a tiger-infested journey, the brahmana (i.e., the arahat) goes free from dukkha.
https://www.tipitaka.net/tipitaka/dhp/v ... ?verse=294

:anjali:
The heart of the path is so simple. No need for long explanations. Give up clinging to love and hate, just rest with things as they are. That is all I do in my own practice.

Do not try to become anything. Do not make yourself into anything. Do not be a meditator. Do not become enlightened. When you sit, let it be. When you walk, let it be. Grasp at nothing. Resist nothing.

Of course, there are dozens of meditation techniques to develop samadhi and many kinds of vipassana. But it all comes back to this-just let it all be. Step over here where it is cool, out of the battle.

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Re: Should we repay or kill our parents?

Post by rolling_boulder » Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:40 am

:tongue:
The world is swept away. It does not endure...
The world is without shelter, without protector...
The world is without ownership. One has to pass on, leaving everything behind...
The world is insufficient, insatiable, a slave to craving.

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Re: Should we repay or kill our parents?

Post by thang » Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:10 am

It is impossible, monks,
it cannot come to pass,
for a person who is possessed of (right) view
to slay his mother.

But it is quite possible
for the uneducated manyfolk to do so.

It is impossible, monks,
it cannot come to pass,
for a person who is possessed of (right) view
to slay his father.

But it is quite possible
for the uneducated manyfolk to do so.

The impossible: AN 1.268-269
"Bhikkhus, whatever the Tathāgata speaks, _ all that is just so and NOT otherwise."

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