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Michele Bachmann Seeks To Ban Masturbation and Menstruation

Post by Ben » Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:39 am

Michele Bachmann Seeks To Ban Masturbation and Menstruation

In the latest pro-life effort brought about by staunch conservative and Tea Party Presidential candidate Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), there is a new bill she brought onto the floor of Congress seeking to ban both male masturbation, and female menstruation.

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What do you think?
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Re: Michele Bachmann Seeks To Ban Masturbation and Menstruation

Post by retrofuturist » Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:42 am

Other than...

:rolleye:

:?:

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Re: Michele Bachmann Seeks To Ban Masturbation and Menstruation

Post by tiltbillings » Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:45 am

while Bachmann is, indded, a whack-job, this is a parody -- a joke, son, a joke.

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Re: Michele Bachmann Seeks To Ban Masturbation and Menstruation

Post by Ben » Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:54 am

Thanks Tilt.
I knew it was satire. But...it flies so close to reality that it, from this outsider's perspective, seems indistinguishable.

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Re: Michele Bachmann Seeks To Ban Masturbation and Menstruation

Post by Bhikkhu Pesala » Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:36 am

Ben wrote:What do you think?
I think that one should not regard the faults of others, nor spread idle gossip.
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Re: Michele Bachmann Seeks To Ban Masturbation and Menstruation

Post by tiltbillings » Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:49 am

Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:
Ben wrote:What do you think?
I think that one should not regard the faults of others, nor spread idle gossip.
This is serious American politics, heaven help us all.
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Re: Michele Bachmann Seeks To Ban Masturbation and Menstruation

Post by Dan74 » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:39 am

Serious American politics provides great entertainment for the rest of the world, at least the parts that aren't getting bombed...

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Re: Michele Bachmann Seeks To Ban Masturbation and Menstruation

Post by Kim OHara » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:42 am

tiltbillings wrote:This is serious American politics, heaven help us all.
You don't need heaven, surely, when you have Bachmann?
:rolleye:

Ben, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. We have Tony Abbott. :embarassed:

Let's leave it at that, folks - Bhante Pesala's comment is the most sensible one we've had or are likely to get.

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Post by tiltbillings » Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:04 am

Kim O'Hara wrote:
tiltbillings wrote: Let's leave it at that, folks - Bhante Pesala's comment is the most sensible one we've had or are likely to get.
Naw. Actually, there is a great deal to learn from all of this.
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Re: Michele Bachmann Seeks To Ban Masturbation and Menstruation

Post by Ben » Sun Sep 18, 2011 12:13 pm

Greetings Bhante,
Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:
Ben wrote:What do you think?
I think that one should not regard the faults of others, nor spread idle gossip.
One was doing neither. I was interested in what people think on the influence of fundamentalist christian values on the US (or western) politics.
Kim wrote:Ben, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. We have Tony Abbott.
Kim, this may come as a surprise but I am not responsible for Tony Abbott's presence in the Australian political system nor his poisonous oppositional behaviour. Furthermore, I don't think that just because we have flawed people within our own political system means that we cannot comment on the politics of others or the moral constructs underpinning those who are in politics. We live in a very connected world where the domestic politics, whether they are US, UK, European, Chinese or Australian ripple and have wide ranging effects throughout the world.

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Re: Michele Bachmann Seeks To Ban Masturbation and Menstruation

Post by BubbaBuddhist » Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:34 pm

I weep that upon reading the comments under the article, apparently many, many people missed that it was satire.

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Post by Bhikkhu Pesala » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:06 pm

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Post by octathlon » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:24 pm

There is no need to resort to satire to make a point about scary political figures. There is plenty of factual information that can be posted to make the point. For instance she recently falsely stated that the HPV vaccine could cause mental retardation. http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/ ... YM20110915" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; This is reprehensible since there is already a fear of vaccines among parents because of the whole autism thing which was based on a study that faked their data. And that's just one example of off-the-wall stuff she says.

When posting a satirical story for entertainment, I think it would be proper to identify that it is in fact not a real story (since after all with some of these politicians anything seems possible!), to observe right speech.

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Post by Kim OHara » Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:45 pm

Ben wrote:
Kim wrote:Ben, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. We have Tony Abbott.
Kim, this may come as a surprise but I am not responsible for Tony Abbott's presence in the Australian political system nor his poisonous oppositional behaviour. Furthermore, I don't think that just because we have flawed people within our own political system means that we cannot comment on the politics of others or the moral constructs underpinning those who are in politics. We live in a very connected world where the domestic politics, whether they are US, UK, European, Chinese or Australian ripple and have wide ranging effects throughout the world.
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Hi, Ben,
I didn't for a moment blame you for Tony Abbott, of course. I was just saying that Aussies shouldn't be poking fun at the US because they have the Tea Party.
As for "comment[ing] on the politics of others or the moral constructs underpinning those who are in politics," I agree in general but your thread title and OP did not look like the starting point for a reasoned discussion.

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Post by Kim OHara » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:02 pm

Metta-4 wrote:I weep that upon reading the comments under the article, apparently many, many people missed that it was satire.

M4
Yes, it's a bit sad - but satire depends for its success on being reasonably close to the truth so the potential for error is necessary to the form, if I can put it that way.
We have of pair of (IMO) genius-level satirists here in Australia. They have a five minute time-slot once a week in national TV in which they mercilessly skewer the latest political idiocies - but I doubt that most non-Aussies would know what they were getting at, and I know that at least one of their skits was taken for fact in the US. See what you make of them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q9-fZl2FHE
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2011/s3173093.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI6zK9Y38qk

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Post by Ben » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:31 pm

Kim O'Hara wrote:
Ben wrote:
Kim wrote:Ben, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. We have Tony Abbott.
Kim, this may come as a surprise but I am not responsible for Tony Abbott's presence in the Australian political system nor his poisonous oppositional behaviour. Furthermore, I don't think that just because we have flawed people within our own political system means that we cannot comment on the politics of others or the moral constructs underpinning those who are in politics. We live in a very connected world where the domestic politics, whether they are US, UK, European, Chinese or Australian ripple and have wide ranging effects throughout the world.
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Hi, Ben,
I didn't for a moment blame you for Tony Abbott, of course. I was just saying that Aussies shouldn't be poking fun at the US because they have the Tea Party.
As for "comment[ing] on the politics of others or the moral constructs underpinning those who are in politics," I agree in general but your thread title and OP did not look like the starting point for a reasoned discussion.

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My apologies for the lack of clarity, Kim. I wrote that post after a long day behind the wheel.
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Re: Michele Bachmann Seeks To Ban Masturbation and Menstruation

Post by tiltbillings » Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:26 am

If you do not like this thread, do not read or watch the foillowinmg links, and if you do, you were warned, so don't complaim about it.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp ... 9#44527869

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Re: Michele Bachmann Seeks To Ban Masturbation and Menstruation

Post by chownah » Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:54 am

Since the OP was knowingly posted as a joke I guess it's ok to discuss it as one...so....did anyone else notice that in the original post SHE only wants to ban MALE masturbation!!!!! hahahhaha.....this, coupled with wanting to ban menstruation is not only very humorous but also is a serious political statement that politically she is primarily promoting her own very personal agenda with disregard for fairness and the rights of others.....I guess.....
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Post by DNS » Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:21 am

chownah wrote:Since the OP was knowingly posted as a joke I guess it's ok to discuss it as one...so....did anyone else notice that in the original post SHE only wants to ban MALE masturbation!!!!! hahahhaha.....this, coupled with wanting to ban menstruation is not only very humorous but also is a serious political statement that politically she is primarily promoting her own very personal agenda with disregard for fairness and the rights of others.....I guess.....
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Continuing with the 'logic' of the joke, the seed 'wasted' by men was supposedly 'potential' to make life, whereas with women that is not the case, except with menstruation.

(Note: Lacto-ovo vegetarians will eat eggs, but not fertilized eggs, so 'potential' does not qualify as 'life' from the more serious standpoint.)

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