Is it at all possible to get rid of poverty entirely?

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Re: Is it at all possible to get rid of poverty entirely?

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binocular wrote: Sat May 26, 2018 4:23 pm
No_Mind wrote: Sat May 26, 2018 11:24 amShould we accept once and for all that poverty is going to be there .. that it cannot be wiped out entirely?
What exactly is so bothersome, so troubling, so offensive about poverty?

I think those implicit assumptions need to be brought to the fore and explored first, before one can attempt to think about solutions to the problem of poverty.
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Re: Is it at all possible to get rid of poverty entirely?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_distribution
Pareto originally used this distribution to describe the allocation of wealth among individuals since it seemed to show rather well the way that a larger portion of the wealth of any society is owned by a smaller percentage of the people in that society. He also used it to describe distribution of income.[8] This idea is sometimes expressed more simply as the Pareto principle or the "80-20 rule" which says that 20% of the population controls 80% of the wealth.[9] However, the 80-20 rule corresponds to a particular value of α, and in fact, Pareto's data on British income taxes in his Cours d'économie politique indicates that about 30% of the population had about 70% of the income. The probability density function (PDF) graph at the beginning of this article shows that the "probability" or fraction of the population that owns a small amount of wealth per person is rather high, and then decreases steadily as wealth increases. (Note that the Pareto distribution is not realistic for wealth for the lower end. In fact, net worth may even be negative.) This distribution is not limited to describing wealth or income, but to many situations in which an equilibrium is found in the distribution of the "small" to the "large".
I don't think its possible.

There are always going to be some people, places, industries etc that are more productive than others - which means they will have a larger share of the gains to be made by producing. Poverty is relative, so as long as there is a wealth distribution at all, some people are going to be poor.
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