Harry, Meghan and my Papañca

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Grigoris wrote: Fri May 18, 2018 4:39 pm I remember as a school kid in New Zealand the national anthem was "God Save the Queen", the Sex Pistols version came out about the same time I started to understand the ridiculousness of singing God Save the Queen on the complete opposite side of the planet from the Queen...
Yes, times have changed. Now we start off in Māori, which is nice, since the English words of God Defend New Zealand are a bit naff...

I think the monarchy has become rather irrelevant here, though Harry was mobbed when he visited a couple of years ago. I do like the idea of my monarchs being safely over the other side of the world, funded by someone else... :tongue:

In practice our Governor General is the head of state, and they are selected locally (and only have a figure-head capacity).

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Meghan Markle's mother and father were married in the SRF (Guru Yogananda) temple in Malibu, California. Her mother was a yoga teacher and social worker.

https://www.refinery29.com/2018/04/1968 ... hy-details

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Quite a few memes have been doing the rounds of facebook. This one reflects my own attitude very nicely.

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Reuters TV will start its coverage online at 4:30 ET. Here's a link if you'd like to watch. They will also be streaming via OS and Android apps, Roku, Fire TV and Apple TV


The Order of Service, including two unexpected musical choices.
Yena yena hi maññanti,
tato taṃ hoti aññathā.


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It turns out otherwise.
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and only have a figure-head capacity
Do not underestimate the hidden power.
Governer general sacked the prime minister Gough Whitlam.
What if GG sack NZ prime minister.
Who can stop that?
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Prince Harry's marriage has turned me into a seer who has serious problem of papañca (mental proliferation)
Thank you for the news.
The only way I get news now days is from DW and gossips as I do not watch TV or read newspapers.
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I'm going to watch the wedding tonight with my mother, it will be a nice sociable time with family.
Watching big public events like this... it's like watching motor-racing... there's always the chance of a spectacular crash or accident. Plus they have bunting. How often do you get to see bunting in this century!
SarathW wrote: Sat May 19, 2018 3:29 am What if GG sack NZ prime minister.
Who can stop that?
The Queen would stop that. The Governor General is answerable to the Crown.
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JamesTheGiant wrote: Sat May 19, 2018 4:34 am I'm going to watch the wedding tonight with my mother, it will be a nice sociable time with family.
Watching big public events like this... it's like watching motor-racing... there's always the chance of a spectacular crash or accident. Plus they have bunting. How often do you get to see bunting in this century!
SarathW wrote: Sat May 19, 2018 3:29 am What if GG sack NZ prime minister.
Who can stop that?
The Queen would stop that. The Governor General is answerable to the Crown.
The Queen didn't stop it in Australia in 1975.

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Kim OHara wrote: Sat May 19, 2018 4:44 am The Queen didn't stop it in Australia in 1975.

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I'm a bit shaky on my Australian political history, but wasn't it justified and a good call in the end?
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Hopefully by the time George marries 25 years or more later society will have changed and people will not be as fascinated by the Royals as they are now.

I cannot understand celebrity culture. If George Clooney or Lionel Messi or Virat Kohli gets married how does it affect me?

But then I cannot understand so many things people do .. buy copies of designer clothes .. and so on.

I find it easier to understand business owners .. they are insecure .. so they need more and more money .. million to hundred million to billion to tens of billions .. one can sort of understand that.

But all these people from France and Spain and USA camping outside Windsor Castle for last 24 hours. What do they get?

BBC asked one of them .. a black woman .. and she replied "I get to be within few feet of them and maybe take a selfie." What kind of reason is that? How little self esteem do you have that you feel honoured to be within few feet of celebrity.

But then I would have been excited to be in same room with Stephen Hawking or Gandhi .. so I guess I have my own version of celebrity following .. but I would not wait outside a venue to catch a glimpse of them .. no one is worth that much importance.

Edit Add - I would wait outside a venue (for few minutes to an hour) to catch glimpse of Springsteen and Dylan .. only two celebrities I put on a pedestal.

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What do they get?
Free entertainment.
But they don't know they indirectly pay for it mainly by wasted time.
It is like watching free youtube videos.
There is nothing is free in this world.
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SarathW wrote: Sat May 19, 2018 5:06 am
What do they get?
Free entertainment.
How is it entertainment .. watching 12 Years A Slave or Mission Impossible 6 is entertainment (depending on one's taste) .. watching Word Cup football is entertainment .. watching Springsteen sing My Hometown is entertainment .. what is entertaining about two very wealthy people (one of whom is extremely entitled) getting married :shrug:

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How is it entertainment
Don't you watch Bollywood films :coffee: ?
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SarathW wrote: Sat May 19, 2018 5:27 am
How is it entertainment
Don't you watch Bollywood films :coffee: ?
Only serious ones like The Lunchbox .. parallel cinema or alternative cinema .. and sometimes Bollywood movies with strong storyline and made without any song and dance sequence .. but those are really rare even now.

Would not be caught dead watching a mainstream Bollywood film.

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JamesTheGiant wrote: Sat May 19, 2018 4:50 am
Kim OHara wrote: Sat May 19, 2018 4:44 am The Queen didn't stop it in Australia in 1975.

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I'm a bit shaky on my Australian political history, but wasn't it justified and a good call in the end?
"No" to the first question (at best, they could find plausible excuses for it) and "maybe" to the second (Whitlam was probably going to crash, one way or another). But the central points are that the G-G pulled the plug on a government that Aussies elected and that the Queen did not stop him.
But we're rather OT here so I will leave it at that.

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