is birth control the same as getting an abortion

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Re: is birth control the same as getting an abortion

Post by binocular » Wed May 16, 2018 8:05 am

xofz wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 8:56 pm
Any females, especially female Buddhists, want to express their views? Specifically, on whether or not life begins at conception and abortion is always killing. For instance, does the self-referential consciousness that defines what life is at all begin at conception?
None of that actually matters, because what matters is the intention. The purpose of "birth control" is to control birth, not just conception.
When a woman uses contraception or any other form of birth control, including abortion, including third trimester abortion, it's this that she doesn't want to end up with:
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That is the intention: to not end up with a child.

The rest is just moral gymnastics.
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Re: is birth control the same as getting an abortion

Post by DooDoot » Wed May 16, 2018 8:08 am

binocular wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 8:05 am
it's this that she doesn't want to end up with
What are some of the reasons why she doesn't want to end up with "this"? :shrug:

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Re: is birth control the same as getting an abortion

Post by James Tan » Wed May 16, 2018 8:26 am

One friend of mine whom has the third eye said if we uses contraception or any other form of birth control , the possible "child to be" , can't find a place or way to take birth thus "stuck" in the misery realm for very long time . It is very pitiful if one can see with our own eyes their suffering . Therefore , we have to consider seriously their situation and try to develop kindness and compassion towards them.
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Re: is birth control the same as getting an abortion

Post by binocular » Wed May 16, 2018 8:30 am

DooDoot wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 8:08 am
binocular wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 8:05 am
it's this that she doesn't want to end up with
What are some of the reasons why she doesn't want to end up with "this"? :shrug:
Economic burden; social disgrace; a child often being a career hindrance; a child sometimes being an obstacle to keeping the man (since being pregnant, nursing a child, or already having children makes a woman much less sexually attractive in the eyes of many men); dislike of children; knowing that she would be an unfit parent; fear of giving birth to a disabled child; habitual socially conditioned predisposition to think of sex and becoming pregnant as two completely unrelated matters; ...
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Re: is birth control the same as getting an abortion

Post by DooDoot » Wed May 16, 2018 11:44 am

binocular wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 8:30 am
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Sounds reasonable. The world is now very challenging & difficult. 'Dukkha' literally = 'difficult'. Suchness (tathatā).

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Re: is birth control the same as getting an abortion

Post by Aloka » Wed May 16, 2018 12:35 pm

James Tan wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 8:26 am
One friend of mine whom has the third eye said if we uses contraception or any other form of birth control , the possible "child to be" , can't find a place or way to take birth thus "stuck" in the misery realm for very long time .

Maybe this happens too...


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Re: is birth control the same as getting an abortion

Post by James Tan » Wed May 16, 2018 3:23 pm

Aloka wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 12:35 pm
James Tan wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 8:26 am
One friend of mine whom has the third eye said if we uses contraception or any other form of birth control , the possible "child to be" , can't find a place or way to take birth thus "stuck" in the misery realm for very long time .

Maybe this happens too...


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:pig:


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You know what ?
You are quite lucky !
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Re: is birth control the same as getting an abortion

Post by Aloka » Thu May 17, 2018 6:48 am

James Tan wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 3:23 pm

You know what ?
You are quite lucky !






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Re: is birth control the same as getting an abortion

Post by James Tan » Thu May 17, 2018 7:38 am

Aloka wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 6:48 am
James Tan wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 3:23 pm

You know what ?
You are quite lucky !






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