Politics is boring

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Politics is boring

Post by Coëmgenu » Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:08 am

How do you tell if someone is an alt-righter?

They talk about the wicked system (gynocentrism) that is destroying us.

How do you tell is someone is a social justice warrior?

They talk about the wicked system (patriarchy) that is destroying us.

:zzz:
世尊在靈山會上拈華示眾眾皆默然唯迦葉破顏微笑世尊云
The Lord dwelt at the Vulture Peak with the assembly and plucked a flower as a teaching. The myriad totality were silent, save for Kāśyapa, whose face cracked in a faint smile. The Lord spoke.

吾有正法眼藏涅槃妙心實相無相微妙法門不立文字教外別傳付囑摩訶迦葉。
I have the treasure of the true dharma eye, I have nirvāṇa as wondrous citta, I know signless dharmatā, the subtle dharma-gate, which is not standing on written word, which is external to scriptures, which is a special dispensation, which is entrusted to Mahākāśyapa.

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Re: Politics is boring

Post by chownah » Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:50 am

Yeah, as I have said many times before: Politics is a stupid game for mostly stupid people.
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Re: Politics is boring

Post by pulga » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:21 pm

When, bhikkhus, a bhikkhu understands as they really are the origin and passing away of the six bases of contact, their satisfaction, unsatisfactoriness, and the escape from them, then he understands what transcends all these views. -- Brahmajāla Sutta

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Re: Politics is boring

Post by Justsit » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:50 pm

Coëmgenu wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:08 am
...
:zzz:
Yes, except, sadly, the immense suffering as a result of politics is :cry: .

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Re: Politics is boring

Post by Dhammarakkhito » Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:54 pm

it is more like a perverse entertainment, no? the world can hardly be changed. in trying to control what is inconstant there is stress.
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Re: Politics is boring

Post by Dhammarakkhito » Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:58 pm

what beneficial aims are realized by slaying and being cruel
or standing in the street with a sign
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Re: Politics is boring

Post by binocular » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:42 pm

chownah wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:50 am
Yeah, as I have said many times before: Politics is a stupid game for mostly stupid people.
Were it not for the vast amounts of money that are involved in politics, and people's lives at stake!

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Re: Politics is boring

Post by dharmacorps » Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:52 pm

Further than being boring, politics nowadays is toxic attachments to views and ideas. Its best to stay away.

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Re: Politics is boring

Post by Kim OHara » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:29 pm

Participating in the political process doesn't help in the search for personal peace, comfort or enlightenment, true, but failure to engage is a failure to put universal compassion into action - and how good is our practice if it is only directed to selfish ends?
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”― Edmund Burke (in a letter addressed to Thomas Mercer).

It's as true today as it was 200 years ago--except for now, in modern times, the sin of giving in to political apathy would be extended to women too.

That's from http://www.openculture.com/2016/03/edmu ... ction.html where you will find Burke's longer version of the same thought.

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Re: Politics is boring

Post by Sam Vara » Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:01 pm

Kim OHara wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:29 pm
Participating in the political process doesn't help in the search for personal peace, comfort or enlightenment, true, but failure to engage is a failure to put universal compassion into action - and how good is our practice if it is only directed to selfish ends?
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”― Edmund Burke (in a letter addressed to Thomas Mercer).

It's as true today as it was 200 years ago--except for now, in modern times, the sin of giving in to political apathy would be extended to women too.

That's from http://www.openculture.com/2016/03/edmu ... ction.html where you will find Burke's longer version of the same thought.

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:thumbsup: Good post, Kim.

I often feel like some of the commenters here; that politics is a process best left alone as a waste of time and something which actively defiles those who take part in it. But then, occasionally, we see people who briefly manage to combine selfless morality with the ability to act or speak in favour of change in the world. Good people doing something, I guess - and it's completely uplifting.

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Re: Politics is boring

Post by retrofuturist » Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:36 am

Greetings Sam, all,
Sam Vara wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:01 pm
I often feel like some of the commenters here; that politics is a process best left alone as a waste of time and something which actively defiles those who take part in it. But then, occasionally, we see people who briefly manage to combine selfless morality with the ability to act or speak in favour of change in the world. Good people doing something, I guess - and it's completely uplifting.
Yes.

This is also why we split News and Politics topics from out of the Lounge, gave them their own section, and gave members the easy ability to "opt out" if they genuinely believe the former.

We respect both perspectives and have given people the means to easily customize their experience of the forum in line with their beliefs.

If however people genuinely see engagement in worldly matters to be a defilement, yet opt to see and participate in News topics that pertain to world matters and politics, then they have foregone any right to authentically complain about the existence of such discussion.

If it's genuinely a defilement, or if it's genuinely boring, or if it's genuinely a stupid game for stupid people... then opt out. It's really not hard, if people are being honest with themselves.

Metta,
Paul. :)
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Re: Politics is boring

Post by chownah » Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:34 am

If it's genuinely a defilement, or if it's genuinely boring, or if it's genuinely a stupid game for stupid people... then opt out.
INdeed, for these reasons and other reasons I opt out of the political game.
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