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Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Post by No_Mind » Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:13 pm

Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Such as -

David is from Las Vegas, Nevada (as shown in brief description)

But Sam is from Sussex, U.K

Why do people from rest of the world announce which country they are from but American place names are supposed to be universally recognised ..

That is so even in Intro .. the way people write the subject line

and American would just write "Hi from Idaho"

But a Norwegian would write "Hi from Norway" and not "Hi from Hordaland"

Here is what I collected from first few pages - Wyoming, Arkansas, Bible Belt, Delaware, Ohio and with no mention in the opening post about where those places/provinces are .. a visitor from Jordan or Cambodia is automatically supposed to know which country Delaware or Bible Belt is located in.

Not very egalitarian.

Edit Add - Unlike the American Exceptionalism episode I am not trying to pick a fight .. I noticed it in Intro and wrote about it a few minutes later with no malicious intent

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Re: Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Post by Sam Vara » Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:21 pm

I'm thinking of moving here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California,_Berkshire

- just to confuse people!

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Re: Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Post by chownah » Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:16 pm

How many people here don't know what country las vegas, nevada is in?

See, everyone knows what country it is in......why state the obvious.
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Re: Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Post by DNS » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:27 pm

I won't say the U.S. is the greatest nation, because it's not :tongue: but it is the number one economy in the world and I notice most of the world tends to follow U.S. politics and news even if they have never visited the U.S. And then Americans rarely follow the politics of other nations, except for just a little bit for the UK and EU.

Las Vegas has over 40 million tourist visitors per year, so most people know where that is. But believe it or not there is another Las Vegas, in New Mexico, population 13,000 and I visited it once. So I specify: Las Vegas, Nevada.

I suppose you're right though for other cities and places, for example I doubt if most people know Ypsilanti is a city in Michigan named after Demetrios Ypsilantis, a hero in the Greek War of Independence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ypsilanti,_Michigan

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Post by No_Mind » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:34 pm

DNS wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:27 pm
I won't say the U.S. is the greatest nation, because it's not :tongue: but it is the number one economy in the world and I notice most of the world tends to follow U.S. politics and news even if they have never visited the U.S. And then Americans rarely follow the politics of other nations, except for just a little bit for the UK and EU.

David do you really believe that a locomotive driver in Scotland cares about U.S politics .. and also do you really believe that those who follow U.S politics closely from abroad (like me) do not also follow U.K, Europe, China, Japan, Middle East, Russia, Israel as closely?

Yes the loco driver knows that Trump is U.S President and he also knows Putin and that is where his knowing ends.

Do you honestly believe most others in the world except people with time to waste like me know the name of every U.S state, its location and capital?

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Post by DNS » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:36 pm

I didn't say everyone, no not everyone but a sizable number. I've lived in several other nations and witnessed it myself.

Yes, they follow other nations' politics too, as well as the U.S. politics. You won't find it in the reverse much; that is, Americans following Asian politics, etc.

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Post by No_Mind » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:42 pm

DNS wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:36 pm
I didn't say everyone, no not everyone but a sizable number. I've lived in several other nations and witnessed it myself.

Yes, they follow other nations' politics too, as well as the U.S. politics. You won't find it in the reverse much; that is, Americans following Asian politics, etc.
Which basically means to an Asian like me .. there is not much difference between between you and Sam as a co-passenger on a night long train journey from Delhi to Bodh Gaya .. I am equally comfortable chatting about 2nd Amendment and/or Brexit .. or if I am ill informed about the world .. not chat at all with either of you.

And that means Americans should mention where they are from .. Hi, I am Lorna and I am from Kentucky U.S and not Hi, I am Lorna and I am from Kentucky .. they do not have a special place in other people's lives as you have observed.

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Post by Sam Vara » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:06 pm

No_Mind wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:46 pm

Some of my English is from British education we follow .. and reading lot of novels written by British authors as a kid (Agatha Christie, P. G Wodehouse, Conan Doyle, Ken Follet, Jeff Archer, Desmond Bagley, Ian Fleming and so on)

There is another English you know where colour is not color

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Long live Indian English! It reminds me of more civilised and courteous times. I remember being told by a doctor in Trivandrum that my health was "tickety-boo". Apart from that, I have never heard the term outside of an ironic context.

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Post by No_Mind » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:11 pm

Sam Vara wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:06 pm
No_Mind wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:46 pm

Some of my English is from British education we follow .. and reading lot of novels written by British authors as a kid (Agatha Christie, P. G Wodehouse, Conan Doyle, Ken Follet, Jeff Archer, Desmond Bagley, Ian Fleming and so on)

There is another English you know where colour is not color

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Long live Indian English! It reminds me of more civilised and courteous times. I remember being told by a doctor in Trivandrum that my health was "tickety-boo". Apart from that, I have never heard the term outside of an ironic context.
tickety-boo reminds me of this song for some reason .. hearing this on a 45 rpm record .. good ol' days



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Re: Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Post by JohnK » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:14 pm

No_Mind wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:13 pm
Here is what I collected from first few pages - Wyoming,...
I have to stick up for Wyoming. :)
I suspect I'm the only Wyoming (USA) poster -- smallest population of all USA States.
(We have more Senators than Representatives in DC -- however that statement may only be comprehensible to those from the USA or who follow USA politics.)
I just double-checked, and I did include USA in the location field under my "avatar."
(I was going to add USA if was not already there -- see, we are nice people here in Wyoming; great global citizens. ;) )
Lounging...
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Re: Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Post by Sam Vara » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:15 pm

No_Mind wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:11 pm

tickety-boo reminds me of this song for some reason .. hearing this on a 45 rpm record .. good ol' days
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Yes, I remember it well. You'd never hear it on the radio in the UK now though. "Racist stereotyping".

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Re: Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Post by Sam Vara » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:18 pm

JohnK wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:14 pm

I have to stick up for Wyoming. :)
I suspect I'm the only Wyoming (USA) poster -- smallest population of all USA States.
(We have more Senators than Representatives in DC -- however that statement may only be comprehensible to those from the USA or who follow USA politics.)
I just double-checked, and I did include USA in the location field under my "avatar."
(I was going to add USA if was not already there -- see, we are nice people here in Wyoming; great global citizens. ;) )
Lounging...

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Post by No_Mind » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:27 pm

JohnK wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:14 pm
No_Mind wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:13 pm
Here is what I collected from first few pages - Wyoming,...
I have to stick up for Wyoming. :)
I suspect I'm the only Wyoming (USA) poster -- smallest population of all USA States.
(We have more Senators than Representatives in DC -- however that statement may only be comprehensible to those from the USA or who follow USA politics.)
I just double-checked, and I did include USA in the location field under my "avatar."
(I was going to add USA if was not already there -- see, we are nice people here in Wyoming; great global citizens. ;) )
Lounging...
Wyoming is the setting for large number of movies Close Encounters, Butch Cassidy, Unforgiven, The Hateful Eight .. quite a well known place
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if you keep doing this i might just have to take a look at your posting history, compile a case and make a formal complaint. This is not a threat, this is my plan.
:reading: better get on with it .. 1450 posts or so ..

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Post by JohnK » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:30 pm

While we are talking about bias in location descriptions, I chose "Tetons" first (a mountain range) to avoid the anthropocentric bias of emphasizing mere humanly-fabricated political boundaries. :)
Mountains are of course impermanent, too -- but a bit less so!
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Post by JohnK » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:34 pm

Sam Vara wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:18 pm
...
Yes, I love that scene in Dog Day Afternoon!
"...the practice is essentially a practice, and not a theory to be idly discussed...right view leaves unanswered many questions about the cosmos and the self, and directs your attention to what needs to be done to escape from the ravages of suffering." Thanissaro Bhikkhu, On The Path.

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Re: Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Post by binocular » Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:33 pm

No_Mind wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:13 pm
Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?
Because there is no law or decree to do so.
Why do people from rest of the world announce which country they are from
Because we are more cultured.
but American place names are supposed to be universally recognised ..
Says who?

That said, even though I speak American English, I might actually switch to British spelling, just because I don't want to be associated with Americans. But British English is much more difficult for me to articulate than American English. Hm. I'll have to figure this out, to avoid the contumely of proud men!
Not very egalitarian.
All humans are equal, but some are more equal -- or more American -- than others ...

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Re: Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Post by thepea » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:58 pm

When I was a kid I travelled to Texas, U.S. to visit my relatives, I’m from Canada.
I went to school with my cousin for the day and he introduced me as his cousin from Canada. One kid said that’s the white state up north.
I went up to the school map and pulled it down, it was a roll up style classroom map, intent on pointing out the province and city I lived in. Shocked I found that the map was incredibly detailed with regard to the US but Canada was shown as a big white section with Canada written across it no division of provinces or cities at all.
I don’t think most Americans are aware of anywhere but the US.
I think my Texas cousin billy bob is travelling to the state of Australia next month with a short stopover in the state of Figi.

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Post by SDC » Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:17 am

thepea wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:58 pm
When I was a kid I travelled to Texas, U.S. to visit my relatives, I’m from Canada.
I went to school with my cousin for the day and he introduced me as his cousin from Canada. One kid said that’s the white state up north.
I went up to the school map and pulled it down, it was a roll up style classroom map, intent on pointing out the province and city I lived in. Shocked I found that the map was incredibly detailed with regard to the US but Canada was shown as a big white section with Canada written across it no division of provinces or cities at all.
I don’t think most Americans are aware of anywhere but the US.
I think my Texas cousin billy bob is travelling to the state of Australia next month with a short stopover in the state of Figi.
Our ignorance is slight more sophisticated than that...

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Re: Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Post by DooDoot » Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:20 am

No_Mind wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:13 pm
Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?
I was taught at school the majority of Americans are extremely poorly educated on non-USA matters therefore we non-Americans must help them. Even including 'U.K' or 'India' may not help them. As for us, we are indoctrinated by US media therefore we hear lots about the USA. In short, this conspiracy maintains the miccha ditthi of 'American Exceptionalism'. For the sake of US Imperialism, its a 'Terra Nullius' doctrine in respect to the rest of the earth.

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Re: Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Post by thepea » Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:25 am

SDC wrote:
Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:17 am

Our ignorance is slight more sophisticated than that...
Unless you reside from the state of USA, in Texas.

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