Online games addiction

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by oncereturner » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:35 am

dylanj wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:58 pm
stop playing them. renounce them all forever. it's the best & only real option
Very good advice! I deleted all the games, except for one. I'm playing it for four months, and finally reached a high level. This is a very good game.

This game is not peaceful. I want to reset all progress and uninstall, but I have no willpower. Reverting back from level 99 to level 1 means all my playing was in vain. I have these foolish thoughts. I will lose my base, all my "treasure", weapons, armor and everything.

Should I delete this heedless zombie game forever?
"And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from abusive speech, & from idle chatter: This is called right speech."

— SN 45.8

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by dylanj » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:49 am

oncereturner wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:35 am
dylanj wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:58 pm
stop playing them. renounce them all forever. it's the best & only real option
Very good advice! I deleted all the games, except for one. I'm playing it for four months, and finally reached a high level. This is a very good game.

This game is not peaceful. I want to reset all progress and uninstall, but I have no willpower. Reverting back from level 99 to level 1 means all my playing was in vain. I have these foolish thoughts. I will lose my base, all my "treasure", weapons, armor and everything.

Should I delete this heedless zombie game forever?
Yes you should :) I understand it is hard, I used to be a big gamer too. Actually right now I am using a gaming computer that I bought - but I have never played any games on it because soon after it arrived I decided I didn't want to become entangled again...It was a good decision despite the seeming "waste" of it. You could say this purchase was in vain...but if I had become engrossed in gaming again there'd be even more vanity, more of a waste.

You know what is best, it's just a matter of whether you can bring yourself to delight in following that choice as opposed to dwelling over what's occurred thus far. Either way I wish you the best. Anumodaana. :anjali:
susukhaṁ vata nibbānaṁ,
sammā­sambud­dha­desitaṁ;
asokaṁ virajaṁ khemaṁ,
yattha dukkhaṁ nirujjhatī


Oh! extinction is so very blissful,
As taught by the One Rightly Self-Awakened:
Sorrowless, stainless, secure;
Where suffering all ceases


etaṁ santaṁ etaṁ paṇītaṁ yadidaṁ sabbasaṅkhārasamatho sabbūpadhipaṭi nissaggo taṇhakkhayo virāgo nirodho nibbānaṁ

This is peaceful, this is excellent, that is: the stilling of all preparations, the relinquishment of all attachments, the destruction of craving, detachment, cessation, extinction.

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by Crazy cloud » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:50 am

oncereturner wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:35 am
Should I delete this heedless zombie game forever?
I've kicked a lifelong habit a few years ago, and in the days after the change the mind said to mind: Remove all trophy's belonging to this criminal, because he might come back again and reclaim his possessions.


Be well!
If you didn't care
What happened to me
And I didn't care for you

We would zig-zag our way
Through the boredom and pain
Occasionally glancing up through the rain

Wondering which of the
Buggers to blame
And watching for pigs on the wing
- Roger Waters

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by bodom » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:05 pm

dharmacorps wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:50 pm
bodom wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:00 am
I like to play Madden NFL Football on my Playstation 4 once in awhile.

I'm such a hedonist!

:stirthepot:
You get more dhamma points for Madden. I played call of duty/black ops which I think Mara probably invented.
Lol oh I definitely got down on some Black Ops.
These days it's pretty much just sports games.

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To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With no struggling, no thinking,
the mind, still,
will see cause and effect
vanishing in the Void.
Attached to nothing, letting go:
Know that this is the way
to allay all stress.

- Upasika Kee Nanayan

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by oncereturner » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:29 pm

Crazy cloud wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:50 am
oncereturner wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:35 am
Should I delete this heedless zombie game forever?
I've kicked a lifelong habit a few years ago, and in the days after the change the mind said to mind: Remove all trophy's belonging to this criminal, because he might come back again and reclaim his possessions.


Be well!
You mean my game character is a criminal? You are right, he's a mass killer, a " soldier of Mara ".
"And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from abusive speech, & from idle chatter: This is called right speech."

— SN 45.8

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by oncereturner » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:08 pm

dylanj wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:49 am
oncereturner wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:35 am
dylanj wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:58 pm
stop playing them. renounce them all forever. it's the best & only real option
Very good advice! I deleted all the games, except for one. I'm playing it for four months, and finally reached a high level. This is a very good game.

This game is not peaceful. I want to reset all progress and uninstall, but I have no willpower. Reverting back from level 99 to level 1 means all my playing was in vain. I have these foolish thoughts. I will lose my base, all my "treasure", weapons, armor and everything.

Should I delete this heedless zombie game forever?
Yes you should :) I understand it is hard, I used to be a big gamer too. Actually right now I am using a gaming computer that I bought - but I have never played any games on it because soon after it arrived I decided I didn't want to become entangled again...It was a good decision despite the seeming "waste" of it. You could say this purchase was in vain...but if I had become engrossed in gaming again there'd be even more vanity, more of a waste.

You know what is best, it's just a matter of whether you can bring yourself to delight in following that choice as opposed to dwelling over what's occurred thus far. Either way I wish you the best. Anumodaana. :anjali:
In my anger, I throwed my mobile to the ground several times, when I died in the game. Fortunately it's still working. Previously hit my keyboard while playing computer games, when losing. As progressing in dhamma, I can handle my emotions. But I still can feel the stress which is caused by the game.
"And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from abusive speech, & from idle chatter: This is called right speech."

— SN 45.8

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by Crazy cloud » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:26 pm

oncereturner wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:29 pm
Crazy cloud wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:50 am
oncereturner wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:35 am
Should I delete this heedless zombie game forever?
I've kicked a lifelong habit a few years ago, and in the days after the change the mind said to mind: Remove all trophy's belonging to this criminal, because he might come back again and reclaim his possessions.


Be well!
You mean my game character is a criminal? You are right, he's a mass killer, a " soldier of Mara ".
Where do you feel the dividing line beween you and your avatar is running?

I don't like to mean anything special, just sharing experiences.
If you didn't care
What happened to me
And I didn't care for you

We would zig-zag our way
Through the boredom and pain
Occasionally glancing up through the rain

Wondering which of the
Buggers to blame
And watching for pigs on the wing
- Roger Waters

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by oncereturner » Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:32 am

Crazy cloud wrote:
Where do you feel the dividing line beween you and your avatar is running?

I don't like to mean anything special, just sharing experiences.
I can see my character from a bird's eye view, there's a distance. This idle game is called Last day on earth survival. I neglected my tasks, meditation, household job while playing. I use it to distract myself form the harsh reality.
"And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from abusive speech, & from idle chatter: This is called right speech."

— SN 45.8

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by auto » Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:37 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia
Synesthesia is a perceptual phenomenon in which stimulation of one sensory or cognitive pathway leads to automatic, involuntary experiences in a second sensory or cognitive pathway.
Just cultivate, focus these second sensory pathway experiences. You can start correlate with knowledge in general. Whatever it is stimulating your first sensory cognitive pathways.

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by Nwad » Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:26 pm

oncereturner wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:32 am
Crazy cloud wrote:
Where do you feel the dividing line beween you and your avatar is running?

I don't like to mean anything special, just sharing experiences.
I can see my character from a bird's eye view, there's a distance. This idle game is called Last day on earth survival. I neglected my tasks, meditation, household job while playing. I use it to distract myself form the harsh reality.
Oh! I played it a little bit... Not easy as game because of it realism and i droped it (as all games) because of dukkha... ;)

Are you a "prepper" (survivalist)?

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by oncereturner » Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:37 pm

Yes I have a survivor character, also made the chopper. Wasted my Saturday with playing,

I guess Mara is laughing now. "I easily tempted this foolish dude again, he plays instead of practicing dhamma"

Mara:

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"And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from abusive speech, & from idle chatter: This is called right speech."

— SN 45.8

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by oncereturner » Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:48 am

dylanj wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:58 pm
stop playing them. renounce them all forever. it's the best & only real option
You convinced me! I deleted the game, reverted all progress forever. I feel much better.

THANK YOU! :)

:namaste:
"And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from abusive speech, & from idle chatter: This is called right speech."

— SN 45.8

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by Nwad » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:09 am

Well done Retourner !!! :hug: :anjali: :twothumbsup:
oncereturner wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:37 pm
Yes I have a survivor character, also made the chopper.
I used to be a prepper ^^ With food for several mounth, arms, water, medecine, communication etc...

It's pretty close to right view about anicca, but the very opposite about anatta... While Dhamma teach how to let all go and die with no accquisitions, survivalism tel you how to protect your life and not to die by acquisition of many sorts of objects :)
I had a question about being prepper and buddhist at the same time, i think to create a topic about it, perhaps there is some "enlightened preppers" ^^ :guns:

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by oncereturner » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:46 am

Nwad wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:09 am
Well done Retourner !!! :hug: :anjali: :twothumbsup:
oncereturner wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:37 pm
Yes I have a survivor character, also made the chopper.
I used to be a prepper ^^ With food for several mounth, arms, water, medecine, communication etc...

It's pretty close to right view about anicca, but the very opposite about anatta... While Dhamma teach how to let all go and die with no accquisitions, survivalism tel you how to protect your life and not to die by acquisition of many sorts of objects :)
I had a question about being prepper and buddhist at the same time, i think to create a topic about it, perhaps there is some "enlightened preppers" ^^ :guns:
Sorry, I didn't know what is prepper, but googled it. No, I'm not a prepper. :smile:
"And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from abusive speech, & from idle chatter: This is called right speech."

— SN 45.8

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by oncereturner » Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:14 am

dylanj wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:58 pm
stop playing them. renounce them all forever. it's the best & only real option
My friend. I have one last zombie shooter game on my online account. It's called dead target. I have a lot of "money and gold " in the game thanks to lot of playing and micro transactions. This is not so addictive, but very violent. It says "headshot for money" and and provides simple missions. It celebrates the Chinese new year with golden weapons. I agree with Virgo, I have to steam off after a stressful work. But there must be better ways to do it IMO. It causes adrenaline rush and high blood pressure.

Should I delete this too forever?

:thanks: :shrug:
"And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from abusive speech, & from idle chatter: This is called right speech."

— SN 45.8

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