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Re: Online games addiction

Post by Zom » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:55 pm

Laypeople should also plan to do intensive meditation retreats when they can, where they follow 8 precepts and meditate intently, relenquishing desires like video games at those times.
This won't help with overcoming desires. Actually, I saw exactly opposite result of intensive meditation retreats, when people heavily indulged in sensuality after retreats.

Wisdom will help, but it takes time to see things through. Uposatha is also a good way to have a rest from sensuality, yes.

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by dylanj » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:58 pm

stop playing them. renounce them all forever. it's the best & only real option
susukhaṁ vata nibbānaṁ,
sammā­sambud­dha­desitaṁ;
asokaṁ virajaṁ khemaṁ,
yattha dukkhaṁ nirujjhatī


Oh! extinction is so very blissful,
As taught by the One Rightly Self-Awakened:
Sorrowless, stainless, secure;
Where suffering all ceases


etaṁ santaṁ etaṁ paṇītaṁ yadidaṁ sabbasaṅkhārasamatho sabbūpadhipaṭi nissaggo taṇhakkhayo virāgo nirodho nibbānaṁ

This is peaceful, this is excellent, that is: the stilling of all preparations, the relinquishment of all assets, the destruction of craving, detachment, cessation, extinction.

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by dylanj » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:00 pm

Virgo wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:23 pm
But a layperson needs to blow off steam.
no. to whatever extent a lay person does unwholesome, household-life, sensual/worldly activities, they will inevitably suffer for it
susukhaṁ vata nibbānaṁ,
sammā­sambud­dha­desitaṁ;
asokaṁ virajaṁ khemaṁ,
yattha dukkhaṁ nirujjhatī


Oh! extinction is so very blissful,
As taught by the One Rightly Self-Awakened:
Sorrowless, stainless, secure;
Where suffering all ceases


etaṁ santaṁ etaṁ paṇītaṁ yadidaṁ sabbasaṅkhārasamatho sabbūpadhipaṭi nissaggo taṇhakkhayo virāgo nirodho nibbānaṁ

This is peaceful, this is excellent, that is: the stilling of all preparations, the relinquishment of all assets, the destruction of craving, detachment, cessation, extinction.

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by SDC » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:06 pm

My tangent question to dylan about lay life vs monasticism has been moved here.

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by dharmacorps » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:43 pm

Crazy cloud wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:25 pm
I mostly see fine people around me, but I know that all of them are deranged, and people who indulge in violent games i regard as possible "ticking bombs" ..
If all that is true then you must be very afraid, very often. I hope you find some peace. :anjali:

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by bodom » Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:00 am

I like to play Madden NFL Football on my Playstation 4 once in awhile.

I'm such a hedonist!

:stirthepot:
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With no struggling, no thinking,
the mind, still,
will see cause and effect
vanishing in the Void.
Attached to nothing, letting go:
Know that this is the way
to allay all stress.

- Upasika Kee Nanayan

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by denise » Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:38 am

:)

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by Virgo » Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:15 am

bodom wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:00 am
I like to play Madden NFL Football on my Playstation 4 once in awhile.

I'm such a hedonist!

:stirthepot:
:rofl:


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Re: Online games addiction

Post by Crazy cloud » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:10 am

dharmacorps wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:43 pm
Crazy cloud wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:25 pm
I mostly see fine people around me, but I know that all of them are deranged, and people who indulge in violent games i regard as possible "ticking bombs" ..
If all that is true then you must be very afraid, very often. I hope you find some peace. :anjali:
ok. thats pretty fine, but can you tell me where peace is to be found? :thinking:
If you didn't care
What happened to me
And I didn't care for you

We would zig-zag our way
Through the boredom and pain
Occasionally glancing up through the rain

Wondering which of the
Buggers to blame
And watching for pigs on the wing
- Roger Waters

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by oncereturner » Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:04 pm

The Fruits of the Contemplative Life
translated from the Pali by
Thanissaro Bhikkhu
© 1997

"Whereas some brahmans and contemplatives, living off food given in faith, are addicted to heedless and idle games such as these — eight-row chess, ten-row chess, chess in the air, hopscotch, spillikins, dice, stick games, hand-pictures, ball-games, blowing through toy pipes, playing with toy plows, turning somersaults, playing with toy windmills, toy measures, toy chariots, toy bows, guessing letters drawn in the air, guessing thoughts, mimicking deformities — he abstains from heedless and idle games such as these. This, too, is part of his virtue."
"And what is right speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive speech, from abusive speech, & from idle chatter: This is called right speech."

— SN 45.8

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by dharmacorps » Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:46 pm

Crazy cloud wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:10 am
ok. thats pretty fine, but can you tell me where peace is to be found? :thinking:
You're on a theravada buddhist forum so I am assuming you have an idea..

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by dharmacorps » Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:50 pm

bodom wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:00 am
I like to play Madden NFL Football on my Playstation 4 once in awhile.

I'm such a hedonist!

:stirthepot:
You get more dhamma points for Madden. I played call of duty/black ops which I think Mara probably invented.

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by Disciple » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:07 pm

GTA 5 for me. That must of been invented by Mara's dad.

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by SDC » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:19 pm

:D

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Re: Online games addiction

Post by Crazy cloud » Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:08 pm

dharmacorps wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:46 pm
Crazy cloud wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:10 am
ok. thats pretty fine, but can you tell me where peace is to be found? :thinking:
You're on a theravada buddhist forum so I am assuming you have an idea..
I do have an idea, but you seem to think/assume otherwise, so that's the reason for asking you to clarify!?
If all that is true then you must be very afraid, very often. I hope you find some peace. :anjali:
If you didn't care
What happened to me
And I didn't care for you

We would zig-zag our way
Through the boredom and pain
Occasionally glancing up through the rain

Wondering which of the
Buggers to blame
And watching for pigs on the wing
- Roger Waters

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